So you got yourself COVID vaccine. Think you can’t get COVID? Think again.

VAERS data released 7/23/21 by the CDC showed 491,218 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 11,405 deaths and 48,385 serious injuries between December 14, 2020 and July 16, 2021.

Here’s the answer, which comes from the same set of government numbers that we just listed: The actual number is almost certainly much higher than that — perhaps vastly higher. The data we just cited come from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System — VAERS — which is managed by the CDC and the FDA. VARES has received a lot of criticism over the years, some of it founded. Some critics have argued for a long time that VARES undercounts vaccine injuries. A report submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services in 2010 concluded that "fewer than one percent of vaccine adverse events are reported" by the VARES system. Fewer than one percent. So what is the real number of people who apparently have been killed or injured by the vaccine? Well, we don’t know that number. Nobody does, and we’re not going to speculate about it. But it’s clear that what is happening now, for whatever reason, is not even close to normal. It’s not even close to what we’ve seen in previous years with previous vaccines. Most vaccines are not accused of killing large numbers of people. The Menveo vaccine, for example, is given to people around the world, often children, to prevent bacterial meningitis. In this country, only one person died from that vaccine in the entire period between 2010 and 2015. One. So, compare that to what’s happening now. In just the first four months of this year, the U.S. government has recorded more deaths after COVID vaccinations than from all other vaccines administered in the United States between mid-1997 and the end of 2013. That’s a period of fifteen and a half years. Again, more people, according to VAERS, have died after getting the shot in four months during a single vaccination campaign than from all other vaccines combined over more than a decade and a half. Chart that out. It’s a stunning picture.

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VAERS data released 7/23/21 by the CDC showed 491,218 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 11,405 deaths and 48,385 serious injuries between December 14, 2020 and July 16, 2021.

Here’s the answer, which comes from the same set of government numbers that we just listed: The actual number is almost certainly much higher than that — perhaps vastly higher. The data we just cited come from the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System — VAERS — which is managed by the CDC and the FDA. VARES has received a lot of criticism over the years, some of it founded. Some critics have argued for a long time that VARES undercounts vaccine injuries. A report submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services in 2010 concluded that "fewer than one percent of vaccine adverse events are reported" by the VARES system. Fewer than one percent. So what is the real number of people who apparently have been killed or injured by the vaccine? Well, we don’t know that number. Nobody does, and we’re not going to speculate about it. But it’s clear that what is happening now, for whatever reason, is not even close to normal. It’s not even close to what we’ve seen in previous years with previous vaccines. Most vaccines are not accused of killing large numbers of people. The Menveo vaccine, for example, is given to people around the world, often children, to prevent bacterial meningitis. In this country, only one person died from that vaccine in the entire period between 2010 and 2015. One. So, compare that to what’s happening now. In just the first four months of this year, the U.S. government has recorded more deaths after COVID vaccinations than from all other vaccines administered in the United States between mid-1997 and the end of 2013. That’s a period of fifteen and a half years. Again, more people, according to VAERS, have died after getting the shot in four months during a single vaccination campaign than from all other vaccines combined over more than a decade and a half. Chart that out. It’s a stunning picture.
We are all going to die after we get the shot. The question is how long after and whether there is any connection. Have they found a connection?
 
. And a very small percentage of the infected vaccinated folks will Die!

yes - .00071% (from the CDC) of those vaccinated may die. They have a greater chance of being shot by a gangbangers in Democrat run cities.
 
Didn't see any thoughts on natural immunity? (antibodies) Previously infected? I know... A different thread on a different site.
 
yes - .00071% (from the CDC) of those vaccinated may die. They have a greater chance of being shot by a gangbangers in Democrat run cities.
The odds of getting shot by a gangbanger are getting better everyday. In one NYC event they were only trying to shoot 3 but hit 10 in total. They need to get to the range more often, it'd save lives.o_O;)
 
If this was posted sorry for repost
Does any one have a list of the ingredients in each vaccine and the difference between them. From what I have read the J&J seems to be the only one that is like a regular flu shot. IE it is not a man made vaccine. It is a culture like all flu vaccines were like in the past.
 
If this was posted sorry for repost
Does any one have a list of the ingredients in each vaccine and the difference between them. From what I have read the J&J seems to be the only one that is like a regular flu shot. IE it is not a man made vaccine. It is a culture like all flu vaccines were like in the past.
"The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is made by taking a piece of DNA from the COVID-19 spike protein and combining it with an adenovirus, a type of virus typically involved in a common cold. (source-CDC) This adenovirus is just a way to carry instructions to your immune system – it is genetically modified so that it cannot give you a cold. The piece of COVID-19 DNA also does not give you an infection. This vaccine helps your immune system recognize the COVID-19 virus, and develop antibodies to protect you from future infection. To learn more about their vaccine visit Johnson and Johnson. (source – JNJ)"
 
"The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is made by taking a piece of DNA from the COVID-19 spike protein and combining it with an adenovirus, a type of virus typically involved in a common cold. (source-CDC) This adenovirus is just a way to carry instructions to your immune system – it is genetically modified so that it cannot give you a cold. The piece of COVID-19 DNA also does not give you an infection. This vaccine helps your immune system recognize the COVID-19 virus, and develop antibodies to protect you from future infection. To learn more about their vaccine visit Johnson and Johnson. (source – JNJ)"
Thanks
 
So the death rate and side effects from the Covid-19 vaccine are higher than ALL the other vaccines combined, and even after your vaccination, you can still catch Covid-19, and spread it to others? Again, what is the downside to HCQ or plasma treatment?

nobody makes billions of dollars from them...
 
nobody makes billions of dollars from them...

Published May 4, 2021Updated May 5, 2021

Last year, racing to develop a vaccine in record time, Pfizer made a big decision: Unlike several rival manufacturers, which vowed to forgo profits on their shots during the Covid-19 pandemic, Pfizer planned to profit on its vaccine.

On Tuesday, the company announced just how much money the shot is generating.

The vaccine brought in $3.5 billion in revenue in the first three months of this year, nearly a quarter of its total revenue, Pfizer reported. The vaccine was, far and away, Pfizer’s biggest source of revenue.

The company did not disclose the profits it derived from the vaccine, but it reiterated its previous prediction that its profit margins on the vaccine would be in the high 20 percent range. That would translate into roughly $900 million in pretax vaccine profits in the first quarter.
 
Published May 4, 2021Updated May 5, 2021

Last year, racing to develop a vaccine in record time, Pfizer made a big decision: Unlike several rival manufacturers, which vowed to forgo profits on their shots during the Covid-19 pandemic, Pfizer planned to profit on its vaccine.

On Tuesday, the company announced just how much money the shot is generating.

The vaccine brought in $3.5 billion in revenue in the first three months of this year, nearly a quarter of its total revenue, Pfizer reported. The vaccine was, far and away, Pfizer’s biggest source of revenue.

The company did not disclose the profits it derived from the vaccine, but it reiterated its previous prediction that its profit margins on the vaccine would be in the high 20 percent range. That would translate into roughly $900 million in pretax vaccine profits in the first quarter.

Good post. The question was:


what is the downside to HCQ or plasma treatment?

Answer:

nobody makes billions of dollars from them...
 
Didn't see any thoughts on natural immunity? (antibodies) Previously infected? I know... A different thread on a different site.
To me it's relevant, because it contributes to the goal of achieving some level of herd immunity, in conjunction with deploying vaccines. Starting last spring/summer there were reports of breakthrough/second infections in some people who had experienced illness, and healthcare teams worked to determine whether it was a relapse type situation of the initial infection, a new infection with the same strain, or a new infection with a different strain....and found all three to be happening.

It's an important piece of the puzzle, and it's being studied, specifically to determine how much protection it confers and for how long, as well as how it compares to the level of protection provided by any of the vaccinations. Although Seattle was the first well-known hot spot, credible data came out in 2020 showing there were a number of people, primarily in CA, who already had antibodies and/or symptoms fairly early in 2020, including people who had not traveled out of country, thus implying community spread and suggesting the virus had arrived in the States at least a few weeks earlier than originally estimated. The first COVID-related death in the US was thought to be late February, also in the Seattle area, but autopsy results indicated COVID-related deaths in CA earlier than that. (I don't know that we've found our patient 0--or multiple patient 0s--yet.)

I have faith and am thankful that some level of protection does result from natural immunity, and that due to asymptomatic infections it probably applies to a larger population than we can guess, but right now I'm not optimistic that it will be of great impact over the long term since it appears vaccine-induced protection level is higher than naturally acquired, but also is either waning faster than hoped, or may be overcome more quickly by virus mutations.

I also think as more and more resources turn their attention to analyzing the historical info, a much clearer picture will emerge of how widespread and how strong natural immunity has been and can be, and treatment protocols will continue to evolve. If there are pockets of the country where any of the controversial treatments were highly successful, let's dig into that and propagate the most promising options. If there are pockets where certain treatments haven't been successful or are detrimental but are still being used, let's dig into that and slow down or stop.

I HOPE we end up with a preventative that's at least as effective as what we have for measles, chicken pox, etc., but am prepared if it ends up being an annual. It's a really, really sucky waiting game to figure out how we're going to manage this booger. It feels like we're still designing and building parts of the plane while trying to fly it through quickly changing weather conditions!
 
We are all going to die after we get the shot. The question is how long after and whether there is any connection. Have they found a connection?
For sure, I've out lived my sister by 27yrs, brother by 19yrs already. If I live to be as old as both my parents I got 9 more years and I'll be sproutin' daisies:(, don't need the virus to cut me short..... but I found a connection between death and the vaccines, you can see it in this chart, over 4,000 deaths some days in Jan but folks had been getting vaccinated since mid Dec and average daily deaths dropped about 50% in Feb and about the same in March...so I went and got me some of that vaccine.
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Is there currently a test to differentiate the difference between Covid-19, the Delta variant, the Lambda variant, the flu? Which strain A or B of the flu? Has anyone received their flu vaccine yet this year?
 
Is there currently a test to differentiate the difference between Covid-19, the Delta variant, the Lambda variant, the flu? Which strain A or B of the flu? Has anyone received their flu vaccine yet this year?
Yes, there are tests that can distinguish between coronavirus and influenza, distinguish among coronavirus variants, and distinguish among strains of influenza, as well as identify sub-types of each flu strain (remember H1N1?); PCR is one of them.

I don't know whether the 2021-2022 influenza vaccine has been released in the US yet; typically it becomes available starting in August, though highest volumes land at pharmacies/clinics usually in Sept/Oct. Some of the 2020-2021 formulation may remain available in some areas if it wasn't expended.
 
Yes, there are tests that can distinguish between coronavirus and influenza, distinguish among coronavirus variants, and distinguish among strains of influenza, as well as identify sub-types of each flu strain (remember H1N1?); PCR is one of them.

I don't know whether the 2021-2022 influenza vaccine has been released in the US yet; typically it becomes available starting in August, though highest volumes land at pharmacies/clinics usually in Sept/Oct. Some of the 2020-2021 formulation may remain available in some areas if it wasn't expended.
What is the name of the other test that can distinguish between the difference? I want to read about them.
 
For sure, I've out lived my sister by 27yrs, brother by 19yrs already. If I live to be as old as both my parents I got 9 more years and I'll be sproutin' daisies:(, don't need the virus to cut me short..... but I found a connection between death and the vaccines, you can see it in this chart, over 4,000 deaths some days in Jan but folks had been getting vaccinated since mid Dec and average daily deaths dropped about 50% in Feb and about the same in March...so I went and got me some of that vaccine.
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Hallelujah, a person using his head, and years of earned wisdom! Refreshing to hear! Good for you Woody.
 

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