420 DA Thread

hynespa said:
@Lovichka 420 DA - I can confirm that the process @villain style described is the exact one that my 16 year old son & I followed together to get the new batteries in (as well as the old batteries out).

Getting the one of the old batteries out was a big PITA - because the old handle was broken - so we had to fashion a makeshift cradle for that one.
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I started question and really found it not bad. Removed and installed port side by simply removing the small section of floor and pulled old out and new in. Sat the starboard ones on top of the starboard engine and and moved to the cockpit. Not bad at all.

Bennett
 
Practical dinghy weight for Sealift on 44 dancer? New to us 44 on the way looking to learn max weight and " Practical" weight for load on Sea Lift. Current Center console Rib is 410 lbs.
 
I have a 2006 44DA with twin Raymarine E120's. They both work fine, HOWEVER, I can not seem to get the depth sounder shallow water alarm to go off. I set it to 100 feet, and while in 8-20 feet of water, it will not sound and alarm or alert me about shallow water, not matter how I play with the settings. I am boating 37 years in 7 Sea Ray's and have never had this happen. I must be missing something and I am hoping someone can shed some light.

Thanks!
 
Jaybeaux and I were recommissioning Truly Blessed IV yesterday and saw Truly Blessed II, our 03 420 DA, pull in to the Marina to pump out. We traded her in November ‘13 for the 52DB. I think she has had three different owners since that time. Still looking good, and she was the inspiration for this thread back in the spring of 2006....

loved firing up the MANs yesterday after a long winter!
 
Skip said:
Jaybeaux and I were recommissioning Truly Blessed IV yesterday and saw Truly Blessed II, our 03 420 DA, pull in to the Marina to pump out. We traded her in November ‘13 for the 52DB. I think she has had three different owners since that time. Still looking good, and she was the inspiration for this thread back in the spring of 2006....

loved firing up the MANs yesterday after a long winter!
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Skip, it was some of your posts on this thread that convinced us to look at the 420/44 DA's instead of the 40's that we were considering. Now were sort of following your path as we consider the 58DB as our next boat.

The 420/44 DA is a great boat and we miss it, if it had a third cabin we would have kept it.
 
swaterhouse said:
Skip, it was some of your posts on this thread that convinced us to look at the 420/44 DA's instead of the 40's that we were considering. Now were sort of following your path as we consider the 58DB as our next boat.

The 420/44 DA is a great boat and we miss it, if it had a third cabin we would have kept it.
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My favorite Skip line...."lighting the thundering cathedrals to teutonic torque!" And having had the pleasure to assist Skip this past weekend, the real treat is listening to Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" on the stero while recommissioning!

Skips 58 is emmaculate! ;)

Jaybeaux
 
Escapade said:
Practical dinghy weight for Sealift on 44 dancer? New to us 44 on the way looking to learn max weight and " Practical" weight for load on Sea Lift. Current Center console Rib is 410 lbs.
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I have the Sealift on my 420’ their website says the Single Cylinder Platform Lift can lift up to 1,000 lbs. I have a Highfield 310 with center console and 25hp Suzuki.
 
swaterhouse said:
Skip, it was some of your posts on this thread that convinced us to look at the 420/44 DA's instead of the 40's that we were considering. Now were sort of following your path as we consider the 58DB as our next boat.

The 420/44 DA is a great boat and we miss it, if it had a third cabin we would have kept it.
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We love the 58....our floating home in the summer. The V8 MANs are a great match for the boat
 
Has anybody with a 2003-08 390/40 , 420/44 replaced thier Weaco Freezer unit
with a NOVAKOOL !! ?? Novakool 2.4 cu , F2600 fits perfect and the existing hole but novakool does not sell/make a flush mount kit for this unit , so now my freezer sticks out about 2 inches or the width of the door, Has anybody tried being creative to get this particular unit to flush mount ??
 
Splash 2021 has arrived!!!!

No boat.....
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Boat in slip!!!!
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I am packed, the car is loaded (or the car is packed, and I'm loaded :D) and the dog and me are headed down in the morning and won't be back for a few days! 2021 has begun.

Jaybeaux
 
see ray said:
Has anybody with a 2003-08 390/40 , 420/44 replaced thier Weaco Freezer unit
with a NOVAKOOL !! ?? Novakool 2.4 cu , F2600 fits perfect and the existing hole but novakool does not sell/make a flush mount kit for this unit , so now my freezer sticks out about 2 inches or the width of the door, Has anybody tried being creative to get this particular unit to flush mount ??
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I have same freezer in my new to me 03. I have to pull out because temp is not going down.
 

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Jaybeaux said:
Splash 2021 has arrived!!!!

No boat.....View attachment 101852

Boat in slip!!!!
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I am packed, the car is loaded (or the car is packed, and I'm loaded :D) and the dog and me are headed down in the morning and won't be back for a few days! 2021 has begun.

Jaybeaux
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Okay...you are being a little bit of an over achiever right now.....but you need to run with it ...I got nothing I am 8 deep in storage.... damn it.... Cheers dude !!
 
Jaybeaux said:
Splash 2021 has arrived!!!!

No boat.....View attachment 101852

Boat in slip!!!!
View attachment 101853

I am packed, the car is loaded (or the car is packed, and I'm loaded :D) and the dog and me are headed down in the morning and won't be back for a few days! 2021 has begun.

Jaybeaux
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I take that back.... you are like second last in.... maybe start a little earlier next year :)
 
OK 420 Fam....spent the last 4 days at the boat getting things put away, getting ready, yada, yada, yada. All systems functioning! Or so I thought. Been taking nice hot showers on board for the past four nights. This morning, I am washing dishes in the galley sink prior to heading for home, and after what should have been sufficient time, no hot water! Tepid at best. Figured what was left in the tank from last night before it cooled all the way down.

First thing I did was check the breaker in the panel in the salon. It didn't appear to be tripped, but I cycled it anyway. No movement on amp meter. Grabbed some tools and a volt meter and shimmied into the bilge atop the starboard exhaust tube to approach the water heater from above. It was such a PITA removing the top screw of the cover panel, that I pretty much said "F" it, that this was best left to the Marina to fix. I was able to jiggle the wires behind the panel; nothing appeared out of whack, and nothing "broken". Bruised and bloodied, I extricated myself from the exhaust tube and the bilge and was resigned to a drive home in the rain. For grins, I turned on the Water Heater breaker, and I had 15 amps! Did I fix it? Well, it ran for a bit, but spit the bit again. Breaker off---left for home.

I'm thinking that it is either the heating element or the thermostat. But my main question is this: HOW IN THE HECK DO YOU WORK ON THE DARN THING?!?!?!? Do you unbolt the heater from the floor and spin it 90 Degrees? Do you approach it from the top of the unit laying on the exhaust tube as I was doing? As mentioned, I never was able to see the heating element and it's connections, so I couldn't put a meter on it to see if it was still good or not.

So is this one of those projects that can be had with a bit more effort and bloodshed? Or is it one of those where I laugh, shake my head, and walk up to the Service Dept. and add it to the list?

Thanks in advance,

Jaybeaux
 
@Jaybeaux Not much help here as I have never had a problem with it. I did drain it once and you have no choice but to go over the top... first thing I wondered was why wasn’t it installed at 90deg.

Only pic I got showing you have to go over top

good to know that I am not the only one bloodied the second I lift that hatch....I still have scares from last season :)

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@Blueone Thanks. That's what I was afraid of.

New question: Next time at the the boat I have to perform the Sea Trial Wizard on new Garmin Auto-pilot installation. One criteria is to set the planing speed. Now, I believe that the boat planes before I reach my regular cruising speed of 2200 rpm which yields 24-26 mph depending on various factors. But what would you consider the speed at which the boat actually "gets on plane"? I've never thought about it that way before.

Jaybeaux
 
Jaybeaux said:
@Blueone But what would you consider the speed at which the boat actually "gets on plane"? I've never thought about it that way before.

Jaybeaux
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I know its exactly 4 seconds after you feel the Turbo’s spool up.... I am too busy holding on to look down to see the speed :) ... sounds like a good excuse for a boat ride to me
 
Jaybeaux said:
@Blueone Thanks. That's what I was afraid of.

New question: Next time at the the boat I have to perform the Sea Trial Wizard on new Garmin Auto-pilot installation. One criteria is to set the planing speed. Now, I believe that the boat planes before I reach my regular cruising speed of 2200 rpm which yields 24-26 mph depending on various factors. But what would you consider the speed at which the boat actually "gets on plane"? I've never thought about it that way before.

Jaybeaux
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I've gone through this with my Garmin and I think I used cruising speed.
 
Jaybeaux said:
OK 420 Fam....spent the last 4 days at the boat getting things put away, getting ready, yada, yada, yada. All systems functioning! Or so I thought. Been taking nice hot showers on board for the past four nights. This morning, I am washing dishes in the galley sink prior to heading for home, and after what should have been sufficient time, no hot water! Tepid at best. Figured what was left in the tank from last night before it cooled all the way down.

First thing I did was check the breaker in the panel in the salon. It didn't appear to be tripped, but I cycled it anyway. No movement on amp meter. Grabbed some tools and a volt meter and shimmied into the bilge atop the starboard exhaust tube to approach the water heater from above. It was such a PITA removing the top screw of the cover panel, that I pretty much said "F" it, that this was best left to the Marina to fix. I was able to jiggle the wires behind the panel; nothing appeared out of whack, and nothing "broken". Bruised and bloodied, I extricated myself from the exhaust tube and the bilge and was resigned to a drive home in the rain. For grins, I turned on the Water Heater breaker, and I had 15 amps! Did I fix it? Well, it ran for a bit, but spit the bit again. Breaker off---left for home.

I'm thinking that it is either the heating element or the thermostat. But my main question is this: HOW IN THE HECK DO YOU WORK ON THE DARN THING?!?!?!? Do you unbolt the heater from the floor and spin it 90 Degrees? Do you approach it from the top of the unit laying on the exhaust tube as I was doing? As mentioned, I never was able to see the heating element and it's connections, so I couldn't put a meter on it to see if it was still good or not.

So is this one of those projects that can be had with a bit more effort and bloodshed? Or is it one of those where I laugh, shake my head, and walk up to the Service Dept. and add it to the list?

Thanks in advance,

Jaybeaux[/QUOTE
I did exactly this recently. I did take the water lines loose (drain tank). Then removed 4 or 6 phillips screws holding to the floor. I was able to turn tank 90 degrees and point the "busy end" up. You can then take the covers off the water heater. I was able to replace the element and two thermistor / thermostat quarter sized components
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