I think I'm gonna miss owning SeaRay

Carpediem44DB

Carpediem44DB

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Aug 18, 2015
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Sanfransico Bay area
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2000 Carver 506
2006 44 DB Sedan Bridge
Engines
Volvo TAMD 74 P
Hey all, I know I'm gonna enjoy the Carver 506 boat but the Carver Owners Group both on face book and on the Forum are just not as nearly as interactive as the Searay Community. On the FB page there is a lot of likes and 'way to go' and 'nice boat' stuff but when it comes to useful input on technical issues or just good input on experience, Nada. Don't know what that says about the group.
Carpe Diem
 
Maybe I'm old school (not really maybe) but I am not a fan at all of the FB groups format as compared to these type of organized forums. It's hard to follow threads, recall past topics, and research issues. FB also seems to attract a higher percent of douchebag commentators, even on the higher value groups like Sea Ray and Formula.

Just doesn't feel like 'home'

And congratulations on the new boat. Carver is doing a great job these days. Unlike my favorite boat brand.
 
Not near as many Carver owners as Sea Ray owners. Also Carvers tend to be much larger on average and tend to yard maintained I would suspect.
 
Carpediem44DB said:
Hey all, I know I'm gonna enjoy the Carver 506 boat but the Carver Owners Group both on face book and on the Forum are just not as nearly as interactive as the Searay Community. On the FB page there is a lot of likes and 'way to go' and 'nice boat' stuff but when it comes to useful input on technical issues or just good input on experience, Nada. Don't know what that says about the group.
Carpe Diem
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We are going to want to see pictures!
 
copb8tx said:
Maybe I'm old school (not really maybe) but I am not a fan at all of the FB groups format as compared to these type of organized forums. It's hard to follow threads, recall past topics, and research issues. FB also seems to attract a higher percent of douchebag commentators, even on the higher value groups like Sea Ray and Formula.

Just doesn't feel like 'home'

And congratulations on the new boat. Carver is doing a great job these days. Unlike my favorite boat brand.
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I totally agree about Facebook format. They don't organize by model and when a thread is responded too it doesn't show up at the top of the group page. I guess you can set up notifications in messanger when a response is made to your post but I don't need my phone dinging all day either. And then there is the old supporting Mark Fuckerburg thing that sucks too:mad:
 
Strecker25 said:
Boat problems are all the same, stick around! :)
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True Dat, I'll still be lurking here and occasionally stirring the pot for yuks, Lord knows there will be plenty to debate in the coming months until they come to put me in the re-education camp.
Carpe DIem
 
Carpediem44DB said:
Hey all, I know I'm gonna enjoy the Carver 506 boat but the Carver Owners Group both on face book and on the Forum are just not as nearly as interactive as the Searay Community. On the FB page there is a lot of likes and 'way to go' and 'nice boat' stuff but when it comes to useful input on technical issues or just good input on experience, Nada. Don't know what that says about the group.
Carpe Diem
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Facebook groups can be really hit or miss. One Sea Ray group I tried was a real cesspool of jerks and negatively. I noped out of that one real quick.

By contrast the Back Cove / Sabre group I’m in is very pleasant. Owners are generally lovely and share a lot of helpful technical information. I’ve had a number of great phone conversations with people I’ve met there.

The comments about finding info on FB groups vs a forum like CSR is spot on though. Without threading it can be really hard to effectively search for good historical data. This is especially true with larger groups and ones that at more “social” vs ones more technical.
 
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copb8tx said:
Maybe I'm old school (not really maybe) but I am not a fan at all of the FB groups format as compared to these type of organized forums. It's hard to follow threads, recall past topics, and research issues. FB also seems to attract a higher percent of douchebag commentators, even on the higher value groups like Sea Ray and Formula.

Just doesn't feel like 'home'

And congratulations on the new boat. Carver is doing a great job these days. Unlike my favorite boat brand.
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Agreed. I am a member of the facebook group attached to this site. There tends to be more troll commenters than answers. I don't think I have ever posted there. Only check farcebook about once a week to see what family is doing and then shut it back down. Can't take the overall ignorance.
 
Well here is one issue I found already poking around in the engine room, There is a deep channel between the inboard engine stringers that runs down the middle of the engine room where any water in the engine room drains to. There was two inches of water just sitting there with no possible way to extract it because the bilge pump at the end of the well sits on a shelf two inches higher than the floor of the well. It makes no sense. Ten feet forward there is a similar sump area with a pump and float switch sitting about two inches higher than the floor of the sump. I vacuumed out about fifteen gallons of water today as I want to see how much if any water enters during sea trial next Wednesday. The Searay on the other hand at each end of the engine room had two wells that water drains into to be pumped dry. Ill have to install a dry bilge system of some kind to keep my ER dry I guess. I posted over on Carver and mostly got the old "must be OCD if your worried about a little water in your boat" comments.
Carpe Deim
 
Carpediem44DB said:
Well here is one issue I found already poking around in the engine room, There is a deep channel between the inboard engine stringers that runs down the middle of the engine room where any water in the engine room drains to. There was two inches of water just sitting there with no possible way to extract it because the bilge pump at the end of the well sits on a shelf two inches higher than the floor of the well. It makes no sense. Ten feet forward there is a similar sump area with a pump and float switch sitting about two inches higher than the floor of the sump. I vacuumed out about fifteen gallons of water today as I want to see how much if any water enters during sea trial next Wednesday. The Searay on the other hand at each end of the engine room had two wells that water drains into to be pumped dry. Ill have to install a dry bilge system of some kind to keep my ER dry I guess. I posted over on Carver and mostly got the old "must be OCD if your worried about a little water in your boat" comments.
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Geez....I had this argument with my yard guy when the boat was pulled for winter storage.... I said why do you pull the drain plug...he said to drain bilge water... I said I never have any.. stop doing that....he said you would be the only boat in the marina

there is no reason not to have a dry bilge
 
Carpediem44DB said:
Well here is one issue I found already poking around in the engine room, There is a deep channel between the inboard engine stringers that runs down the middle of the engine room where any water in the engine room drains to. There was two inches of water just sitting there with no possible way to extract it because the bilge pump at the end of the well sits on a shelf two inches higher than the floor of the well. It makes no sense. Ten feet forward there is a similar sump area with a pump and float switch sitting about two inches higher than the floor of the sump. I vacuumed out about fifteen gallons of water today as I want to see how much if any water enters during sea trial next Wednesday. The Searay on the other hand at each end of the engine room had two wells that water drains into to be pumped dry. Ill have to install a dry bilge system of some kind to keep my ER dry I guess. I posted over on Carver and mostly got the old "must be OCD if your worried about a little water in your boat" comments.
Carpe Deim
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Thats a lousy attitude of the Carver folks to have. Sounds like they are trying to rationalize a design issue. At least they could be honest and say it’s not ideal, but they live with it rather than try to fix it by installing a solution. Then again maybe they think it’s normal to have a lot of water in the bilge.
 
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