SCOTUS reject Texas

And I'm a registered Republican...

No, you're a RINO. In other words a hypocrite that is arguably even more brain dead than the average 'rat.

The 'rats at least try to stand by their mis-guided ideals, whereas a RINO just flits about to whatever cause du jour makes them feel good.
 
BFD5DCEC-CADF-452E-A1B3-518B688935F3.png
This is just Georgia!
 
So kind of like calling witnesses at the Impeachment hearings. Is that the type of transparency you are referring to? At least the witness allegations you are referring to had a chance to speak and then were found to be false.
You do mean the witnesses who would describe the investigation into Hunter Biden, right?
 
You do mean the witnesses who would describe the investigation into Hunter Biden, right?

Sure,if there is a investigation into Hunter Biden there should be witnesses. I am all for hearing from credible witnesses.

It sure seems like your only defence is an offence? Where or whom did you learn that from?
 
Sure,if there is a investigation into Hunter Biden there should be witnesses. I am all for hearing from credible witnesses.

It sure seems like your only defence is an offence? Where or whom did you learn that from?
No. It's both side get the same rules. Right now, Republicans have different rules than Democrats. As you may recall, the impeachment was about Joe and Hunter Biden and the President's claims of their corruption. We where told it was "debunked," not true, and the President was impeached. Come to find out a few weeks after the election the DOJ had a fkg formal investigation into Hunter Biden. WTF is that -- they let a President get impeached while they investigated a person at the center of the President's claims. It's total BS and if you can't see it, then I am truly sorry for you.
 
Why would they "choose" the leave? You just believe what you're told by the media. They didn't choose to leave. They where told that they where done counting for the night and they obvioulsy could leave as there would be nothing to observe. So they left. After they left, the counting continued. That's called cheating.
The observers seemed to have incorrectly assumed that counting was over for the night since they saw workers leaving (ones whose job, opening envelopes, actually was done). The Georgia requirement is for partisan observers to be allowed to watch but if there aren't any, the process doesn't stop. It would be ludicrous to do so since there are sites that gather no partisan observers. Also, of course the scene was under video surveillance.
I don't believe or trust the media but of whichever stripe and try to always verify via primary sources. The "observer" explanation was in the original article I posted but here's another one:
Fox News Reporter Debunks Georgia Election Fraud Claims Made by Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity
"The suggestion that Georgia vote counters were sent home and ballots were brought in in suitcases, also not true. Watson added that the media were never told to leave as the claims indicate, but rather that the location "was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as [election workers] were still working." She said that the ballots that had already been opened in front of the observers were the only ones scanned after the media and other observers left."
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-r...aims-made-tucker-carlson-sean-hannity-1552397

Here's the Georgia Chief Investigator's sworn statement: https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20420664-frances-watson-affidavit. As far as I can tell, the other side of the story (if there is one) is only represented by pundit musings tweets saying "just look at the tape."
 
No, you're a RINO. In other words a hypocrite that is arguably even more brain dead than the average 'rat.

The 'rats at least try to stand by their mis-guided ideals, whereas a RINO just flits about to whatever cause du jour makes them feel good.
If Trump had done what he promised more people might have voted for him but I'm glad to see him go, he's been a horrible president. Just because the guy you backed lost badly is no excuse to go off on a rant calling people names. It was your vote to do what you wanted just as it was my vote to do what I wanted. I said 2 years ago why Trump wouldn't win. He never cared about the country he just wanted the status symbol and to play golf.
 
Last edited:
No. It's both side get the same rules. Right now, Republicans have different rules than Democrats. As you may recall, the impeachment was about Joe and Hunter Biden and the President's claims of their corruption. We where told it was "debunked," not true, and the President was impeached. Come to find out a few weeks after the election the DOJ had a fkg formal investigation into Hunter Biden. WTF is that -- they let a President get impeached while they investigated a person at the center of the President's claims. It's total BS and if you can't see it, then I am truly sorry for you.
DOJ has a policy to not comment on investigations in progress in the run-up to elections. That rule was broken in 2016, apparently to the detriment of the Democratic candidate. Apparently AG Barr, to his credit, resolved to follow the rules this time. As far as we know, there are investigations in progress that would have harmed other candidates, only time will tell.
 
They have them on tape counting ballots without observation. That's cheating. You'll "debunk" it all you want. They counted ballots without observation -- that's cheating.
Video surveillance of people doing their job is better than standing 6' back and watching you can play it back and use it for evidence but the video showed no wrong doing but we do have a lot of whiney losers on here today.
 
The observers seemed to have incorrectly assumed that counting was over for the night since they saw workers leaving (ones whose job, opening envelopes, actually was done). The Georgia requirement is for partisan observers to be allowed to watch but if there aren't any, the process doesn't stop. It would be ludicrous to do so since there are sites that gather no partisan observers. Also, of course the scene was under video surveillance.
I don't believe or trust the media but of whichever stripe and try to always verify via primary sources. The "observer" explanation was in the original article I posted but here's another one:
Fox News Reporter Debunks Georgia Election Fraud Claims Made by Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity
"The suggestion that Georgia vote counters were sent home and ballots were brought in in suitcases, also not true. Watson added that the media were never told to leave as the claims indicate, but rather that the location "was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as [election workers] were still working." She said that the ballots that had already been opened in front of the observers were the only ones scanned after the media and other observers left."
https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-r...aims-made-tucker-carlson-sean-hannity-1552397

Here's the Georgia Chief Investigator's sworn statement: https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20420664-frances-watson-affidavit. As far as I can tell, the other side of the story (if there is one) is only represented by pundit musings tweets saying "just look at the tape."

Here's the problem with your affidavit, and all affidavits -- and why the courts are wrong not to proceed to some type of witness testimony subject to cross examination. Nowhere in the Georgia Chief Investigator's sworn statement does she indicate what "witnesses" she spoke to. They are simple conclusory statements. There is nothing in that statement that counters the sworn affidavit of Michelle Branton who witnessed the announcement to go home. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.284055/gov.uscourts.gand.284055.1.29.pdf

So Fox news and all the rest can claim "debunked" but it just isn't true. You have conflicting affidavits. The only way to get to the truth is to put both Frances and Michelle (and others) on the stand and develop their testimony via direct and cross examination. The courts have failed to do that and have done the country a great disservice.
 
Last edited:
DOJ has a policy to not comment on investigations in progress in the run-up to elections. That rule was broken in 2016, apparently to the detriment of the Democratic candidate. Apparently AG Barr, to his credit, resolved to follow the rules this time. As far as we know, there are investigations in progress that would have harmed other candidates, only time will tell.
First, the impeachment was before Biden was even the nominee. So there was penty of time to reveal the investigatin before the Presidential race. Second, the DOJ leaks like a sieve when in wants to. Third, the "rule" is BS. We voters have a right to know if candidates or their close relatives are under investigation. The only way you'll stop corruption is to stop electing the coruptors. Release the information and let the people decide.
 
Here's the problem with your affidavit, and all affidavits -- and why the courts are wrong not to proceed to some type of witness testimony subject to cross examination. Nowhere in the Georgia Chief Investigator's sworn statement does she indicate what "witnesses" she spoke to. They are simple conclusory statements. There is nothing in that statement that counters the sworn affidavit of Michelle Branton who witnessed the announcement to go home. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.284055/gov.uscourts.gand.284055.1.29.pdf

So Fox news and all the rest can claim "debunked" but it just isn't true. You have conflicting affidavits. The only way to get to the truth is to put both Frances and Michelle (and others) on the stand and develop their testimony via direct and cross examination. The courts have failed to do that and have done the country a great disservice.
Turns out there could have been the evidentiary hearing in this case you are pining for but the plaintiffs blew it - some say on purpose. Here's an excerpt from the dismissal:
"In this case, the district court issued an emergency temporary restraining order at the plaintiffs’ request, worked at a breakneck pace to provide them an opportunity for broader relief, and was ready to enter an appealable order on the merits of their claims immediately after its expedited hearing on December 4, 2020. But the plaintiffs would not take the district court’s “yes” for an answer. They appealed instead. And, because they appealed, the evidentiary hearing has been stayed and the case considerably delayed...The district court then set an expedited briefing schedule and an emergency evidentiary hearing for December 4th. The purpose of the briefing schedule was to allow the defendants an opportunity to respond to the plaintiffs’ allegations. And the purpose of the evidentiary hearing was to allow the plaintiffs to support their allegations with evidence and, potentially, to win the injunctive relief that they were seeking."

Branton only claims to have heard a person she "assumed" was a "supervisor" tell employees, not observers, to go home. These were the ones who were finished so her account appears to be perfectly in line with the investigator's. She also admits that election staff remained after she and others decided to leave.

Plaintiffs will have ample opportunity to pursue their claims in the future and ought to if they are truly interested in improving election procedures. We'll see if that happens. The fact remains that no evidence has been shown of the kind of wide-spread fraud that could or should impact the election results.
 
We see these statistics but never hear of anyone being held accountable for the infractions. Has anyone ever heard of a single voter that cast an illegal vote given so much as a citation for the infraction? Why have laws on the books that are realistically unenforceable? If indeed these votes were identified as being fraudulent, then the voters that were involved need to at the very least be barred from registering to vote for life. It should be one of the simplest of protocols to set up in the registry system. They simply get removed from the roles so they don't get sent any voting materials and their name is on the list in red as unqualified if they happen to check-in at a polling place. Oh yeah but we would have to be able to check IDs and that would be unfair, I forgot.
 
We see these statistics but never hear of anyone being held accountable for the infractions. Has anyone ever heard of a single voter that cast an illegal vote given so much as a citation for the infraction? Why have laws on the books that are realistically unenforceable? If indeed these votes were identified as being fraudulent, then the voters that were involved need to at the very least be barred from registering to vote for life. It should be one of the simplest of protocols to set up in the registry system. They simply get removed from the roles so they don't get sent any voting materials and their name is on the list in red as unqualified if they happen to check-in at a polling place. Oh yeah but we would have to be able to check IDs and that would be unfair, I forgot.
There are a smattering of low level punishments.
 
If Trump had done what he promised ...

How about signed trade deals, peace deals, NOT actually STARTING any armed conflicts, best economy in my 50+ years for ALL colors of people.

Only thing I'm P/O'd about was him not pushing nationwide CCW reciprocity as promised.


...he's been a horrible president...

No, he is and has been an @$$hole, but I believe most of that is to deflect attention TO him, and AWAY from others, so that those working towards his goals can actually accomplish them without the crazed media hounding them nonstop.

Unlike Billy-boy or Mr. Hope I can change us, Trump is/was more focused on getting things done rather than getting his face on TV.
 
Last edited:
You know your court case is in trouble when a judge says it
How about signed trade deals, peace deals, NOT actually STARTING any armed conflicts, best economy in my 50+ years for ALL colors of people.

Only thing I'm P/O'd about was him not pushing nationwide CCW reciprocity as promised.




No, he is and has been an @$$hole, but I believe most of that is to deflect attention TO him, and AWAY from others, so that those working towards his goals can actually accomplish them without the crazed media hounding them nonstop.

Unlike Billy-boy or Mr. Hope I can change us, Trump is/was more focused on getting things done rather than getting his face on TV.
LMAO signed trade deals that were so bad Trump put a tarrif on Canadian aluminum the same week he signed the same NFTA deal. He got less than 2% more for dairy farmers and Wisconsin farmers are now saying they are worse off, the art of the deal lol.
How about with China how's that deal working out.
How about repeal and replace anyone seen 1 piece of paper with any national Healthcare details.

His best economy went down the drain this year unfortunately and his lack of planning has killed more American's than WWII did.

Peace deals with countries not at war they agreed to resume diplomatic ties thats all.
The Electoral College has voted today and Joe Biden is the President Elect.
Now the GOP needs to regroup and find a leader not another dictator.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
113,119
Messages
1,426,581
Members
61,037
Latest member
Esoto
Back
Top