Recall Gretchen Whitmer - Michigan

Iprof said:
Money does not do it but I will bet you that if Biden wins you delete your account and leave this site for ever.
If Trump wins I will delete my account and leave this site forever.

Well....
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Personally, I’m on the edge of my seat waiting to find out which one of you is leaving for good...
 
tc410 said:
Personally, I’m on the edge of my seat waiting to find out which one of you is leaving for good...
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I have a lot of confidence in the outcome. If PA finishes its count tonight we could know then. Trump has a very tough path to victory. Interesting the Dems losing seats in Congress but probably winning the WH.
 
Iprof said:
I have a lot of confidence in the outcome. If PA finishes its count tonight we could know then. Trump has a very tough path to victory. Interesting the Dems losing seats in Congress but probably winning the WH.
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Is this an admission it was rigged by the dems??
 
firecadet613 said:
Is this an admission it was rigged by the dems??
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The election is not rigged in any way. Trump ran a terrible campaign and now he wants the vote counting stopped. He sounds desperate very desperate.
 
Blueone said:
I would like to see your inside information... to make a statement like that is naive at best..... every election is corrupt to a point.... how corrupt is the question with this one..... keep in mind you don’t know any evidence yet....but jump to innocent out of the gate...typical
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The losing side always screams voter fraud.
Biden is about to take Georgia and maybe Pennsylvania tonight too.
 
Blueone said:
No ..dems scream voter fraud when there isn’t any proof... we scream voter fraud when we are kicked out of the counting room and they cardboard the windows or when they move the scanners across the room after a judge says we can be within 6’ of the tables. Bit of a difference..... but let me guess you don’t believe that either
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The problem is the voter fraud happened well before the count. I wonder how many Democrat operatives where walking these cities "twisting arms" to get those mail in ballots filled out "properly." It looks like 1000s of dead people in Detroit may have voted. I think the Democrats have found the holly grail -- watch mail in balloting go nation wide. No way Republicans can win a lazy man's election.
 
Golfman25 said:
The problem is the voter fraud happened well before the count. I wonder how many Democrat operatives where walking these cities "twisting arms" to get those mail in ballots filled out "properly." It looks like 1000s of dead people in Detroit may have voted. I think the Democrats have found the holly grail -- watch mail in balloting go nation wide. No way Republicans can win a lazy man's election.
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Do you have any proof (aka evidence) of this, or is it just something somebody said sometime on some talk radio show?

If You want to make a claim an election is rigged, or has been rigged, don’t forget it’s a two edged sword. If the Dems can do this, so can Republicans. Funny there has never been a single case of large scale election fraud in a US Presidential race, but here you are claiming fraud. Where are your facts?
 
Henry Boyd said:
Do you have any proof (aka evidence) of this, or is it just something somebody said sometime on some talk radio show?

If You want to make a claim an election is rigged, or has been rigged, don’t forget it’s a two edged sword. If the Dems can do this, so can Republicans. Funny there has never been a single case of large scale election fraud in a US Presidential race, but here you are claiming fraud. Where are your facts?
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Evidence of what? Have you ever heard of the Democrat machine? Check it out -- it's a reality in the big cities. Check out the Nixon loss in 1960 to JFK. Chicago Mayor Daley's machine is legendary.

Dead people voting? There are screen shots of dead people still on the voter registration rolls in Michigan who received and sent in absentee ballots. The defense seems to be -- "yeah, but they weren't counted because the cross check before they count." Note the defense isn't that it didn't happen, but that the votes where not counted. Just shows there are shenanigans going on.
 
Henry Boyd said:
Do you have any proof (aka evidence) of this, or is it just something somebody said sometime on some talk radio show?

If You want to make a claim an election is rigged, or has been rigged, don’t forget it’s a two edged sword. If the Dems can do this, so can Republicans. Funny there has never been a single case of large scale election fraud in a US Presidential race, but here you are claiming fraud. Where are your facts?
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It's common sense that if avenues for cheating exist, then operatives of both parties will try to partake. The good news is, that seemingly numerous looks at the issue (including by President Trump's commission) hasn't found evidence, at least in recent times, of large-scale presidential election fraud.
I believe the most recent, well-documented case of election fraud was in North Carolina:
How Republicans Tried to Rig an Election in North Carolina (And Almost Got Away With It)
https://www.gq.com/story/north-carolina-ninth-district-fraud
I believe the candidate owned up to it and retired from politics although he wasn't indicted. The operative is under numerous indictments working through the trial process.
 
Blueone said:
we scream voter fraud
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who is "we" ?

in fact nobody but the president calls it a fraud , no republican observer or anybody else in the states like georgia reports any issues during the counting , the courts dismiss lawsuits from his campaign.

some people were forced to vote for biden ?

maybe , democracy is not perfect and it can happen on both sides but i think there is no major fraud on the american vote counting , only some background noise nobody is seriously listening to anymore .

you should also remember that this plain silly voting fraud accusations damage the reputation of the republican party .
 
Golfman25 said:
Evidence of what? Have you ever heard of the Democrat machine? Check it out -- it's a reality in the big cities. Check out the Nixon loss in 1960 to JFK. Chicago Mayor Daley's machine is legendary.

Dead people voting? There are screen shots of dead people still on the voter registration rolls in Michigan who received and sent in absentee ballots. The defense seems to be -- "yeah, but they weren't counted because the cross check before they count." Note the defense isn't that it didn't happen, but that the votes where not counted. Just shows there are shenanigans going on.
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Where is your proof? Where is there an investigation? Where are the indictments? Blah blah blah. All you have is hearsay, people say, and blame big bad democrats. Rumors, innuendo and just plain lies. If there is truth in what you say why isn't the FBI and Justice Department doing something about it? They do happen to work for the President, don't they? Bill Barr is after all DJT's man, why doesn't he have his back? Could it possibly be its just rumors and gossip?

BTW JFK's election and the Daley years in Chicago were 45-60 years ago. You really should get more timely examples. You also forget Richard Nixon's Watergate Hotel burglars and cover up that triggered his resignation and a number of his staff going to prison including the Attorney General and White House Counsel.
 
Blueone said:
You need to understand what is going on before posting
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It's a German troll.....nothing but nonsense on all of his posts. Nothing Sea Ray related. Meanwhile his country has a major problem with refugees........
 
Henry Boyd said:
Where is your proof? Where is there an investigation? Where are the indictments? Blah blah blah. All you have is hearsay, people say, and blame big bad democrats. Rumors, innuendo and just plain lies. If there is truth in what you say why isn't the FBI and Justice Department doing something about it? They do happen to work for the President, don't they? Bill Barr is after all DJT's man, why doesn't he have his back? Could it possibly be its just rumors and gossip?

BTW JFK's election and the Daley years in Chicago were 45-60 years ago. You really should get more timely examples. You also forget Richard Nixon's Watergate Hotel burglars and cover up that triggered his resignation and a number of his staff going to prison including the Attorney General and White House Counsel.
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This is what Trump will be going to court for. There will be investigations of the "thousands" of reports that fraud has happened in NV, AZ, MI, GA, PA, MI and WI. If warranted, there will be indictments. We're on day 3. Al Gores loss went 37 days. Although the media would have you believe, probably today that Biden won, they don't get to decide the election.
Tell me, how can the Secretary of State of PA change the rules 2 days before the election - How is that legal?
 
Henry Boyd said:
Where is your proof? Where is there an investigation? Where are the indictments? Blah blah blah. All you have is hearsay, people say, and blame big bad democrats. Rumors, innuendo and just plain lies. If there is truth in what you say why isn't the FBI and Justice Department doing something about it? They do happen to work for the President, don't they? Bill Barr is after all DJT's man, why doesn't he have his back? Could it possibly be its just rumors and gossip?

BTW JFK's election and the Daley years in Chicago were 45-60 years ago. You really should get more timely examples. You also forget Richard Nixon's Watergate Hotel burglars and cover up that triggered his resignation and a number of his staff going to prison including the Attorney General and White House Counsel.
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How do you know the FBI et. al. aren't looking into it? How do you know there won't be an investigation. Read what I posted -- the defense is that the votes are screened out, not that they didn't happen. Somebody was getting ballots for dead people. You investigate from there.

And if you don't think Democrat machine politics are as active today as 50+ years ago, you're smoking something. With today's mail in ballots how hard would it be to entice people to fill them out a certain way, say with a carton a smokes or something? You used to have to drive them to the polls, now you just go to their front porch and collect their ballot.
 
OllieC said:
This is what Trump will be going to court for. There will be investigations of the "thousands" of reports that fraud has happened in NV, AZ, MI, GA, PA, MI and WI. If warranted, there will be indictments. We're on day 3. Al Gores loss went 37 days. Although the media would have you believe, probably today that Biden won, they don't get to decide the election.
Tell me, how can the Secretary of State of PA change the rules 2 days before the election - How is that legal?
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Democrats always change the rules. That's how.
 
OllieC said:
It's a German troll.....nothing but nonsense on all of his posts. Nothing Sea Ray related. Meanwhile his country has a major problem with refugees........
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you really have to take your pills . my posts here are constructive , neutral and non offensive but reality based on the informations we get regarding the current vote .

if you have nothing more to offer than baseless personal insults calling me a german troll you are a small nosebrowner nobody cares about and a shame for the republican party as well america.

take your pills first , you need them . and do not derail the discussion .
 
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