Illinois judge strikes down Governor Pritzker stay at home order

El Capitan said:
All this government intervention has fooled everyone. How gullible the masses. How easily manipulated human behavior.

What a disappointment humanity has been. Unwilling and unable to think for themselves.

If anyone really believes all the mask wearing bull$hit, social distancing, washing your hands constantly is because the government cares about you they are gullible and prone to intellectual subjugation.

Why, with all the infectious diseases that exist today, with all the deaths caused every year by a host of preventable causes, has the government never intervened?

This C-19 government misinformation propaganda is equal to the BLM hoax. It has nothing to do with the cause.

Yet the public, like cattle to the slaughter, line up willingly chanting and yelling in support of their own demise, ever so ignorantly (read stupidly).

The feminist movement has eviscerated manhood. We’re a country of limp wristed trust fund spoiled little biaches. The thought of catching a bad flu causes them to scatter about screaming like little girls. The girls have more in-your-face balls than guys. All of them have been dumbed down through the public school system run by the unions and now we have delayed onset of maturity.

The “everybody gets a trophy” generation is our own fault.

The best way out of the virus is to catch it. This is why I don’t wear a mask nor wipe my hands constantly. My family is strong and healthy. If we get sick we get through it and get better coming out stronger on the other side.

I don’t know when or how we became scaredy-cats, we’re fat, rich and lazy (intellectually and emotionally) as a society (generally).

God forbid we catch a nasty flu, need to go to a hospital to get treatment ( rare probability). We rather give up our freedoms and subjugate ourselves to dweeby scientists who never cured a friggin thing.

You do what you will. Not me.
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That is about the greatest conspiracy rant I have seen in a longtime. You did leave out black helicopters over the western states, the Kennedy assassination , and building 51, but certainly covered all the big conspiracy theories. Well Done, and Bravo. You are still not the sharpest tool in the shed, but you do have your moments.
 
I'm concerned that some want to make the issue political along party lines...I see this repeated constantly by some, and I really question their logic...Somehow being a conservative means you can't be smart enough to wear a mask? WTF? As many of you know, I'm tired....Tired of having to repeat myself as a fiscally conservative responsible adult with a professional background in PPE and understands the economic component....

But, perhaps Goldman Sachs are just a but of liberal morons that don't know anything about interpreting data or the economy too...

Here's some info some of you might want to review:

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/face-masks-and-gdp.html
 
I have a background in PPE as well, get annual fittings and testing, as well as recurrent training on pathogens.

Wearing a cloth mask is about as useful as putting up a chain link fence to keep out mosquitoes. :rolleyes:
 
Boat Guy said:
I'm concerned that some want to make the issue political along party lines...I see this repeated constantly by some, and I really question their logic...Somehow being a conservative means you can't be smart enough to wear a mask? WTF? As many of you know, I'm tired....Tired of having to repeat myself as a fiscally conservative responsible adult with a professional background in PPE and understands the economic component....

But, perhaps Goldman Sachs are just a but of liberal morons that don't know anything about interpreting data or the economy too...

Here's some info some of you might want to review:

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/pages/face-masks-and-gdp.html
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Wait. Stop. You’re taking a clinical perspective from an investment bank?

They support a national mandate starting w ..... wait for it....
Florida and Texas.

“Political bias”.... there it is right there.
 
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Loyd Dinneen said:
Based on what is happening in regards to the virus increase people are not following the guidelines and it is in their best interest to park their ass at home so they don't contract or spread the virus. People got stupid and thought all was well because some areas were opened well the government has no choice but shut it all down again and start all over again. Remember it has nothing to do with freedoms being violated it is about protecting the people you care about and maybe bringing the virus home to them and maybe causing their death, THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!
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As inconvenient as it may seem, freedom is not about doing the right thing, or even doing the smart thing. It does not get trumped by anyone's view of safety, morality, or common sense. Freedom includes the right to do stupid things, say stupid things, and think stupid things. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Moreover, it has absolutely everything to do with freedom being violated, and the premise that "protecting the people", somehow nulls freedom is absurd on the face of it.

As attributed to Benjamin Franklin; "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!
 
bobeast said:
As inconvenient as it may seem, freedom is not about doing the right thing, or even doing the smart thing. It does not get trumped by anyone's view of safety, morality, or common sense. Freedom includes the right to do stupid things, say stupid things, and think stupid things. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Moreover, it has absolutely everything to do with freedom being violated, and the premise that "protecting the people", somehow nulls freedom is absurd on the face of it.

As attributed to Benjamin Franklin; "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!
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Under your theory you have the following rights:
You have the right to rob someone,
You have the right to murder someone,
You have the right to blackmail someone,
You have the right to have sex with a child,

Got it, you’re a murdering, thief, extortionist, pedophile.

Did I sum it up right?

Think about that.
 
Henry Boyd said:
Under your theory you have the following rights:
You have the right to rob someone,
You have the right to murder someone,
You have the right to blackmail someone,
You have the right to have sex with a child,

Got it, you’re a murdering, thief, extortionist, pedophile.

Did I sum it up right?

Think about that.
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Sure. let's go with that. I respect your right to say stupid things.
 
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bobeast said:
Sure. let's go with that. I respect your right to say stupid things.
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Really, read your own post. You said you have the right to do whatever you want in the name of freedom. I simply pointed out some of the things that your statement said were ok.

“As inconvenient as it may seem, freedom is not about doing
the right thing, or even doing the smart thing. It does not get trumped by anyone's view of safety, morality, or commonsense. Freedom includes the right to do stupid things, saystupid things, and think stupid things. And I wouldn't have itany other way. Moreover, it has absolutely everything to dowith freedom being violated, and the premise that "protectingthe people", somehow nulls freedom is absurd on the face of it.”

According to your statement, your freedom is absolute. It is over other’s safety, civilization’s morality and common sense, and of course, the law.

Making Theft, murder, extortion and pedophilia crimes is “protecting the people”, something your statement rejects. It’s pretty straightforward logic.

Maybe you should consider your words better. You might think about the ramifications of your statements, otherwise that old adage about “keeping quiet and being thought a fool is better than speaking and removing all doubt” will apply to you.
 
Henry Boyd said:
Really, read your own post. You said you have the right to do whatever you want in the name of freedom. I simply pointed out some of the things that your statement said were ok.

“As inconvenient as it may seem, freedom is not about doing
the right thing, or even doing the smart thing. It does not get trumped by anyone's view of safety, morality, or commonsense. Freedom includes the right to do stupid things, saystupid things, and think stupid things. And I wouldn't have itany other way. Moreover, it has absolutely everything to dowith freedom being violated, and the premise that "protectingthe people", somehow nulls freedom is absurd on the face of it.”

According to your statement, your freedom is absolute. It is over other’s safety, civilization’s morality and common sense, and of course, the law.

Making Theft, murder, extortion and pedophilia crimes is “protecting the people”, something your statement rejects. It’s pretty straightforward logic.

Maybe you should consider your words better. You might think about the ramifications of your statements, otherwise that old adage about “keeping quiet and being thought a fool is better than speaking and removing all doubt” will apply to you.
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I suppose I could have been more clear by saying "protecting the people from themselves", which I thought was obvious in the context of this discussion.

Nonetheless, you dare lecture me about choosing my words after your venomous low-class response? Perhaps you should consider your own words better.
 
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bobeast said:
I suppose I could have been more clear by saying "protecting the people from themselves", which I thought was obvious in the context of this discussion.

Nonetheless, you dare lecture me about choosing my words after your venomous low-class response? Perhaps you should consider your own words better.
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Ah, the tactic of those who lack a logical response to the argument; Personal insult. How was quoting your words and applying logic to highlight the illogical nature of your assertion venomous? How did you derive “low class” from that? I certainly did not resort to insult in response to your insultIng response to my first comment. The only low class behavior seems to be your insulting responses. After all according to you, I’m stupid because you mis-spoke and said something you didn’t mean to say.
 
Henry Boyd said:
Under your theory you have the following rights:
You have the right to rob someone,
You have the right to murder someone,
You have the right to blackmail someone,
You have the right to have sex with a child,

Got it, you’re a murdering, thief, extortionist, pedophile.

Did I sum it up right?

Think about that.
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Geez Henry .... lighten up
 
Henry Boyd said:
Ah, the tactic of those who lack a logical response to the argument; Personal insult. How was quoting your words and applying logic to highlight the illogical nature of your assertion venomous? How did you derive “low class” from that? I certainly did not resort to insult in response to your insultIng response to my first comment. The only low class behavior seems to be your insulting responses. After all according to you, I’m stupid because you mis-spoke and said something you didn’t mean to say.
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Let me help you out.

low-class =
"Got it, you’re a murdering, thief, extortionist, pedophile."

stupid comment = "Under your theory you have the following rights:
You have the right to rob someone,
You have the right to murder someone,
You have the right to blackmail someone,
You have the right to have sex with a child,"

Stupid comment, because pretty much no one on the planet believes that, but somehow you were able to make that leap. Bonus points though for accusing me of personal insult. I admire your chutzpah.

Regards
The murdering, thief, extortionist, pedophile
 
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Dunno 'bout this. I could live with being called many names but being called a pedophile is a little extreme. Some things are just out of bounds and I consider that to be one. But carry on
 
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