Illinois judge strikes down Governor Pritzker stay at home order

Based on what is happening in regards to the virus increase people are not following the guidelines and it is in their best interest to park their ass at home so they don't contract or spread the virus. People got stupid and thought all was well because some areas were opened well the government has no choice but shut it all down again and start all over again. Remember it has nothing to do with freedoms being violated it is about protecting the people you care about and maybe bringing the virus home to them and maybe causing their death, THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!
 
And the rolling weekly death numbers are at a very low point now and steadily decreasing.

Odd how no one wants to talk about that. Also, the actual hospitalizations for Covid are of shorter duration and people are recovering quicker. Again, not mentioned for obvious reasons.

Think about that.
 
The biggest fallacy is that we can hide inside from C-19 or wear a mask and never have to deal with the scary virus. WRONG! The spread was always going to be the spread, we were originally told we were going to flatten the curve to preserve healthcare from being overwhelmed, we succeeded.

Now it is time to live life. The virus is never going away, get that? Never! It is a permanent part of life on this planet for humans. Either get busy living or dying, but we must live and cannot run around in masks for every virus that pops up. This has not lived up to the hype they told us it was.

So why do they want to push mask wear and make it mandatory in some states?

...cloth masks are largely symbolic. The science hasn’t changed, but the agendahas.

Implementing mandatory mask policiesacross a society of 300 million because it makes some people feel better is absurd on its face. But the policy makes a lot of sense if you understand its purpose andusefulness to shift the American mindset.

Mandatory masks are a critical predicate conditioning us to accept abuses of our liberty. Mandatory masking provides the foundation on which governments continue to justify emergency measures and rule by executive fiat, and it creates a national mood of consent that America will accept indefinite government expansion becausewe face a “new normal.”


We can post counter arguments on mask wear, their efficacy, proper technique, the risks of mask wear, all night and never reach agreement.

No one has the right to control the breathing of another free human under the constitution. I hear the Chinese are good at making folks do what they want them to there, might check them out, might be a place to retire to...
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/anthony-fauci-wears-mask-symbol-what-you-should-be-doing-2020-5

US infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said he wears a face mask to serve as a "symbol" of what "you should be doing" amid the coronavirus pandemic, and he called on Americans to do the same.

"I want to protect myself and protect others, and also because I want to make it be a symbol for people to see that that's the kind of thing you should be doing," Fauci told CNN's Jim Sciutto.

https://rifnote.com/2020/07/01/dr-f...e-mask-the-moment-media-cameras-stop-rolling/


 
To Fauci's point, and one I made today in public comment, masks serve a dual role. There secondary role is to remind everyone to social distance and take this seriously...Without masks we as a collective have short memories...Out of sight, out of mind...
 
I’m old enough to remember 9/11. The government was handed a huge emergency situation, and in the effort to convince the public that they were actually doing something, they created the TSA.

The TSA serves no other purpose than to reassure the public the government is doing something, they are there to protect the safety of the flying public. Yet they’ve never prevented a hijacking, they’ve never caught a terrorist, in fact they fail miserably at their jobs (through independent testing) and they cause more confusion and chaos going through the airport. It’s a useless bureaucracy.

It’s called “ security theater”. It’s just there in an attempt to project the illusion of security.

The mask? Same concept. It’s “protection theater” and is there to make the public feel that what the government is doing is for their benefit. Nothing more.
 
If you look at the charts, the states that are "spiking" now never had their spike. They where flat. The virus is rolling thru the country. And don't listen to the media. They keep showing IL as on of the 30 or so "red" states subject to increases. Total BS. IL has be floating between 500 and 900 new cases per day for weeks.
 
Pittsburgh just announced bars are closed to serving alcohol due to increased cases. On the news they noted 'places were people are elbow to elbow for hours with no mask'. Hmmm....I thought they were talking about the protestors. But funny. All these protests and not one mention of that being a reason for a spike in COVID. They are blaming the bars
 
Based on what is happening in regards to the virus increase people are not following the guidelines and it is in their best interest to park their ass at home so they don't contract or spread the virus. People got stupid and thought all was well because some areas were opened well the government has no choice but shut it all down again and start all over again. Remember it has nothing to do with freedoms being violated it is about protecting the people you care about and maybe bringing the virus home to them and maybe causing their death, THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!

Fake news
 
To Fauci's point, and one I made today in public comment, masks serve a dual role. There secondary role is to remind everyone to social distance and take this seriously...Without masks we as a collective have short memories...Out of sight, out of mind...

And when they come up w staying inside due to ‘global warming’ or to make wearing a (________) you fill in the blank,
...on and on. This is a precedent setting event.

Shame how easily people can be scared into giving up their sovereignty in return for the illusion of safety and security.

See how that worked out in the Middle East.
 
Why didn’t they do anything about HIV virus?

1.2m infected. Compare to C-19.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html

The WHO conveniently changed its designation from global pandemic to global epidemic.

Go ahead...guess why?

C-19 is so political it’s losing its own credibility as a terminal threat. With each month C-19 will reveal itself as something completely different than what the media hype propagandizes it to be.

It’s here. And just like all the viruses, will remain here after we’re all dead and gone.

“...you can’t kill a virus... we grow virus in beakers of alcohol...”. From month 1 medical school.
 
And when they come up w staying inside due to ‘global warming’ or to make wearing a (________) you fill in the blank,
...on and on. This is a precedent setting event.

Shame how easily people can be scared into giving up their sovereignty in return for the illusion of safety and security.

See how that worked out in the Middle East.


I still contend if they told everyone to report to the local rail yard where trains await to transport people to "Covid Safe Zones" it would be alarming to see the crowds showing up. :eek:
 
Why didn’t they do anything about HIV virus?

1.2m infected. Compare to C-19.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/statistics.html

The WHO conveniently changed its designation from global pandemic to global epidemic.

Go ahead...guess why?

C-19 is so political it’s losing its own credibility as a terminal threat. With each month C-19 will reveal itself as something completely different than what the media hype propagandizes it to be.

It’s here. And just like all the viruses, will remain here after we’re all dead and gone.

“...you can’t kill a virus... we grow virus in beakers of alcohol...”. From month 1 medical school.

You really do know how to pick your facts. You forgot to mention the annual global condom market is on the order of 8 BILLION DOLLARS US. And that increased use of condoms is largely responsible for curtailing the spread of HIV. Guess that makes another proof that masks can be an effective deterrent to Covid-19.
 
Michael Osterholm's video is good and similar to what I've been writing. Though, I'd like to have a dialog with him...He is in agreement that N95s are the best protection and what he advises his family to use...Yet, he makes reference to other masks in an analogy of getting hit by a semi-truck or a Ford truck and it's not valid. First, I would say the difference is more like getting hit by a bus or a bicycle...The science is there and I've presented it in previous posts as to the efficacy of masks. He states it himself that aerosolized droplets are a major way to transmit the virus and I agree...

I'm a bit confused on the "scared" reference I see all the time. I don't look down the barrel of a loaded gun, nor do I drive at 180MPH with my eyes closed...I'm not scared, I'm using my experience and knowledge to provide guidance and help with my safety and the safety of others...Now, if the gov't was telling me to cut off my arm and requiring everyone to do it, I could see cause for alarm. But they are looking at the data and trying to mitigate a crisis...For example, here in Florida, the Gov. would love for this to be over and open everything up...That's been his focus...Unfortunately, once he did that, guess what happened...He's now had to back-track...But, back to the "scared" issue...I actually think it's those that want to pretend this is a non-event that show the signs of being scared. First, they are scared economically and that makes sense, but never the less...Second, they seem to be so scared that they don't want to deal with it, i.e. take the simplest of measures like wearing a mask in public, indoors...It's not that hard people...

The gov't starts taking away your liberties, I'll be right there with you. But, you really are not focusing on the right thing...Masks are nothing compared to the massive national debt they are putting us all under...I didn't sign up for this, but the financial ramifications that no one is talking about is massive...But, as long as the looters and rioters and everyone else gets their checks and free money who cares? Let's buy another boat!! Woohoo...Partaay...
 
The government has already been taking away people's liberty's and doing it wholesale. No where in the constitution does it say that this document is null and void in the event of a supposed pandemic, or any other disaster.

We've watched churches being shut down while the big box stores remain open. We even watched one mayor threaten to permanently close churches who disobeyed him. He went as far as allowing looters and protestors to destroy buildings all while welding the gates on a park used by the Jewish community.

And remember the worshipers who remained in their cars to attend a service in an old drive in, and the pastor delivered the service on radio so they could sit in their own cars with the windows up? Yep, the cops arrived and issued citations.

And where in our constitution does government have the right to pick and choose which businesses can operate? OK for the big box store to sell hardware, but mom and pop's hardware store must close.

I could go on and on with all of the violations that have occurred. But hey, let's not let that crusty old document get in our way, right? After all, it's for "our own good".

We have a subset of people that chant "My body!, My choice!" as they demand the rights to murder the unborn at will, but yet these same people now want control over other's body's and want their choice removed. Damn, that makes sense, right? o_O

The government bureaucrats and politicians have mismanaged the crap out of this. And we are suppose to just accept their next line of crap? Don't question them or their motives? I think not.
 
A bunch of state reps here in PA were trying to get Governor Wolf impeached or even charged. Apparently when he closed down businesses he allowed them to request an exemption. The state reps requested to see that list and cross reference it with his list of campaign donors. Not sure if that happened but his former business was allowed to stay open while others in that same market were forced to close. There may have been something to it cause I heard a few weeks later they were trying to file impeachment proceedings.
 
All this government intervention has fooled everyone. How gullible the masses. How easily manipulated human behavior.

What a disappointment humanity has been. Unwilling and unable to think for themselves.

If anyone really believes all the mask wearing bull$hit, social distancing, washing your hands constantly is because the government cares about you they are gullible and prone to intellectual subjugation.

Why, with all the infectious diseases that exist today, with all the deaths caused every year by a host of preventable causes, has the government never intervened?

This C-19 government misinformation propaganda is equal to the BLM hoax. It has nothing to do with the cause.

Yet the public, like cattle to the slaughter, line up willingly chanting and yelling in support of their own demise, ever so ignorantly (read stupidly).

The feminist movement has eviscerated manhood. We’re a country of limp wristed trust fund spoiled little biaches. The thought of catching a bad flu causes them to scatter about screaming like little girls. The girls have more in-your-face balls than guys. All of them have been dumbed down through the public school system run by the unions and now we have delayed onset of maturity.

The “everybody gets a trophy” generation is our own fault.

The best way out of the virus is to catch it. This is why I don’t wear a mask nor wipe my hands constantly. My family is strong and healthy. If we get sick we get through it and get better coming out stronger on the other side.

I don’t know when or how we became scaredy-cats, we’re fat, rich and lazy (intellectually and emotionally) as a society (generally).

God forbid we catch a nasty flu, need to go to a hospital to get treatment ( rare probability). We rather give up our freedoms and subjugate ourselves to dweeby scientists who never cured a friggin thing.

You do what you will. Not me.
 
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