2001 280DA 12v Receptacles

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bbwhitejr

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Friend just purchased a 2001 280DA. No power to the 12v receptacles, the Glomex, and likely more. 12v lights work. All 12v breakers turned on. I feel like there is something on the EIM pad we are missing. No experience with an EIM. Any help appreciated.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Bennett
 
Bennett,
You have to locate the gfi outlet and reset the button. It controls all the outlets on the boat.
Hope this helps.
 
dan313 said:
Bennett,
You have to locate the gfi outlet and reset the button. It controls all the outlets on the boat.
Hope this helps.
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Lenny... it's 12V stuff (DC), not AC stuff :)

There should be a fuse for the 12V receptacle (and I assume the Glomex) in the fuse box (EIM module) that's located at the helm. It's either in a cubby under the throttle controls or under the steering wheel.

The control pad (on the dash), itself, doesn't factor into this. However, the "brains" of the unit (the EIM) is the thing that is mounted in the cubby and it also contains the fuses. It contains the circuitry to read what the pad is commanding (pushing buttons) along with the fuses for those pad circuits and other circuits not controlled by the pad, such as the 12V receptacle.

If the fuse is good, then checking for +V at the receptacle wiring is next along with verifying the ground is good, followed by checking the wiring in between the fuse box and the receptacle. FYI, there's a little button on the side of the EIM (fuse box) - push it and the green light next to each fuse should light up if the fuse is good.
 
dan313 said:
Lazy Daze,
Thanks for clearing that up.
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No worries - I'm guessing you probably just read the post a little too quickly. Seems there's been a bunch of posts, recently, about exactly what you are referring to.

However, I wasn't entirely accurate. This boat doesn't use a "fuse" box - instead, it uses a breaker box with little pop-up breakers. Same idea, but a slightly different way of doing it.
 
There were only two 12vdc “outlets” on our 280. One by the helm and one in the galley inside the storage area along the back of the counter. According to the 2002 280 wiring diagram the outlets are on one circuit that goes back to the forward EIM module. My wiring diagram does not show the Glomex, but it makes sense it is wired to the circuit as the OEM space for the tv was in the same cabinet cluster as the galley.

The forward EIM is the one in the little cubby down at your feet on starboard side. This circuit goes back to pin out position eight a red/violet wire. It should have a push button breaker marked “12 volt receptacle”. The pin out and wire color are for tracing if recycling the breaker does not work.

Since the Glomex is not on the OEM drawing it is entirely possible it has an inline fuse. I know when we added tv to our 280, the Glomex digital antenna we also added had its own fuse. Where the factory could have put that I have no idea other than to say it has to be somewhere between the outlet behind the stove, and the starboard side cabinet with tv by the Vee berth.
 
Henry Boyd said:
There were only two 12vdc “outlets” on our 280. One by the helm and one in the galley inside the storage area along the back of the counter. According to the 2002 280 wiring diagram the outlets are on one circuit that goes back to the forward EIM module. My wiring diagram does not show the Glomex, but it makes sense it is wired to the circuit as the OEM space for the tv was in the same cabinet cluster as the galley.

The forward EIM is the one in the little cubby down at your feet on starboard side. This circuit goes back to pin out position eight a red/violet wire. It should have a push button breaker marked “12 volt receptacle”. The pin out and wire color are for tracing if recycling the breaker does not work.

Since the Glomex is not on the OEM drawing it is entirely possible it has an inline fuse. I know when we added tv to our 280, the Glomex digital antenna we also added had its own fuse. Where the factory could have put that I have no idea other than to say it has to be somewhere between the outlet behind the stove, and the starboard side cabinet with tv by the Vee berth.
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Thank you Henry! Your research is spot on. I found the push button breaker marked as you describe and it was not tripped. The 12v outlets are also exactly where you describe. Down to tracing wires now.....

Thanks,
Bennett
 
bbwhitejr said:
Thank you Henry! Your research is spot on. I found the push button breaker marked as you describe and it was not tripped. The 12v outlets are also exactly where you describe. Down to tracing wires now.....

Thanks,
Bennett
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Bennett,

Does your friend have the 280 owners supplement? If not pm me an email and I’ll send the pdf copy I have.
 
I recently had to run a wire behind my galley in my 280.

Pulling the fridge only takes four screws and it slides right out. Allows easy access to area where the outlets are wired, if that will help in your search.

While I had the fridge out, I noticed the condenser fan on the backside had broken blades. Ordered an exact replacement and swapped it out.
 
DWABoat said:
I recently had to run a wire behind my galley in my 280.

Pulling the fridge only takes four screws and it slides right out. Allows easy access to area where the outlets are wired, if that will help in your search.

While I had the fridge out, I noticed the condenser fan on the backside had broken blades. Ordered an exact replacement and swapped it out.
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Thanks! He may need to get to the wiring back there. I am trying to avoid this being a “Bennett project.” I have enough to take care of. I will pass along.

Bennett
 
DWABoat said:
I recently had to run a wire behind my galley in my 280.

Pulling the fridge only takes four screws and it slides right out. Allows easy access to area where the outlets are wired, if that will help in your search.

While I had the fridge out, I noticed the condenser fan on the backside had broken blades. Ordered an exact replacement and swapped it out.
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Great post. Cleaning back there is actually PM, your post demonstrates how easy it is.
 
techmitch said:
Great post. Cleaning back there is actually PM, your post demonstrates how easy it is.
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Right, the deck under the fridge had obviously never been cleaned in mine. I spent some time and Simple Green scrubbing it down. Came out very clean and also removed that musty-dusty odor in the cabinet. So now I know I should do that annually during spring cleaning - not just a fluke.
 
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