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Wow, sure does. BTW, arrived home from va ca early Sat am. Whether was terrible today, so, never went out. Probably Friday before I let her run wide open. Let you know the speed once I test.
 
stephens013, Finally got out for a nice family cruise yesterday after a few weeks away and poor weather. Let the ponies run as you say and hit 31.5 mph with approx. 38 GPH fuel burn if I remember correctly. We had about 400 lbs of human along with all 3 fuel and water tank(s) at 1/2 full. Against a 15 mph head wind and 1 to 2 foot chop. Hope this is interesting...
 
Man; sounds like she has got a lot of giddy-up left to go. My boat was heavy on fuel and 30 knots was easy to make. Of course the fuel burn was a tad on the shocking side but still. I'm running Catapiller and you have Cummings. Not sure there would eba great difference. Haven't been out on the Linda Jean to much, fact not at all. Been doing the menial stuff that needs doing. Did install new radar and some other stuff. I'm getting the itch to take her on a long cruse. Maybe this week. I'll stay in touch regarding performance.

Take care
 
Speaking of RADAR!!! For this and other group members:

I have the original 2002 era electronics, including Sea Ray Navigator by Maptech (some won't know this) and analog radar with RL80C display. Complete list is below. I'm looking to keep the SR Nav, engine monitor displays, depth finder and Autopilot, which all work really well, while updating the radar and display. I just won a gently used Raymarine eSieries e125 Highbrid MFD on eBay, delivered today :) My plan is to keep the Sea Ray Nav, engine monitors, depth finder and pilot as mentioned above. Install a re-man Raymarine Super HD open array, the e125 and network to the existing legacy electronics. I'll use the new e125 for the color radar, Navionics charts and other capabilities I set up with SR Nav as redundancy/backup. I'd like some opinions on this plan as well as experience from the group on how these might communicate with each other. For example: Can my old equipment talk to the new e125 with SeaTalk, NMEA, etc.? Will I need converters or what? I'm not good with this just yet... Thank you in advance.

Current Configuration:
  • Raymarine analog 48" open array radar
  • Reymarine RL80C Pathfinder Plus Display/Controller
  • Raymarine A70
  • Raymarine ST7001+ Autopilot
  • Raymarine ST60 Depthfinder
  • Sea Ray Navigator computer by Maptech
  • Dual Cummins engine status display's which work very well

Walter
 
All this stuff should talk on NMEA 183. Least I would think for that year group of electronics. If it don't then you are in for a battle. I did a lot of conversions and cross talking on my last boat. It was a 1997 400DA that had the whole B&G net work system; auto pilot, gps and so on. I added the Garmin 3210 chart plotter and assorted systems and tried making the auto pilot control work with the Garmin. It was a no go. Back then the companies used their own data flow langaue. One manufactured would have 5 flows of data the next would have 7 and in different orders and so on. Bottom line; data flow just didn't work. Least not consistently. Finally a Garmin auto pilot; problem solved because by then every one was talking on NMEA183. I kept the old B&G rudder manipulator (that was just a d/c pump and ram set up) and the original thru hull depth finder. Those worked pretty good. All the rest was updated through a garmin net work expander; worked pretty good. Now with the NMEA 183 and especially NMEA 2000; well there's just no other way to go.

On this boat I was planning on using the open ray furuno with the original simrad radar display/
gps map back up. Sent the radar off thinking just a little tune up. Simrad said it was toast. Spent $160 in shipping fees to get this shocking news. The insides looked pretty good at first glance but further testing reviled water intrusion and so on. Hey, it's lived on top of a boat since 2001 so I guess it's to be expected. they estimated $3600 to refurbish. Told them to keep it for parts. Got a garmin 18xhd closed ray radar and paired with Garmin 4212 display that handles all the boats nav functions. That will be my one and only chart plotter. Hey with phone apps and garmin hand holds it should be golden. May not have any redundancy on the big display gps map thing but the 4212 is a strong machine and I got it, refurbished from Garmin (looks brand new, wrapped in plastic for the Garmin tech support guys) on a trade deal . Bottom line, this puts everything on NMEA 2000 network. That's the main thing. Im still using the original Simra auto pilot. I did send the Simrad control head out to MaxMarine to be refurbished. By the way, the Simrad head uses NMEA183 and the Garmin 4212 speaks both 183 and 2000. Might want to check on that capability when mixing and matching older units.

Hey, MaxMarine Electronics is a life saver on matching and refurbishing electronics. Their tech support is top notch, least in my experience. You can call them up and ask them what will work with what and get a straight answer.
 
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Speaking of RADAR!!! For this and other group members:

I have the original 2002 era electronics, including Sea Ray Navigator by Maptech (some won't know this) and analog radar with RL80C display. Complete list is below. I'm looking to keep the SR Nav, engine monitor displays, depth finder and Autopilot, which all work really well, while updating the radar and display. I just won a gently used Raymarine eSieries e125 Highbrid MFD on eBay, delivered today :) My plan is to keep the Sea Ray Nav, engine monitors, depth finder and pilot as mentioned above. Install a re-man Raymarine Super HD open array, the e125 and network to the existing legacy electronics. I'll use the new e125 for the color radar, Navionics charts and other capabilities I set up with SR Nav as redundancy/backup. I'd like some opinions on this plan as well as experience from the group on how these might communicate with each other. For example: Can my old equipment talk to the new e125 with SeaTalk, NMEA, etc.? Will I need converters or what? I'm not good with this just yet... Thank you in advance.

Current Configuration:
  • Raymarine analog 48" open array radar
  • Reymarine RL80C Pathfinder Plus Display/Controller
  • Raymarine A70
  • Raymarine ST7001+ Autopilot
  • Raymarine ST60 Depthfinder
  • Sea Ray Navigator computer by Maptech
  • Dual Cummins engine status display's which work very well

Walter
Speaking of RADAR!!! For this and other group members:

I have the original 2002 era electronics, including Sea Ray Navigator by Maptech (some won't know this) and analog radar with RL80C display. Complete list is below. I'm looking to keep the SR Nav, engine monitor displays, depth finder and Autopilot, which all work really well, while updating the radar and display. I just won a gently used Raymarine eSieries e125 Highbrid MFD on eBay, delivered today :) My plan is to keep the Sea Ray Nav, engine monitors, depth finder and pilot as mentioned above. Install a re-man Raymarine Super HD open array, the e125 and network to the existing legacy electronics. I'll use the new e125 for the color radar, Navionics charts and other capabilities I set up with SR Nav as redundancy/backup. I'd like some opinions on this plan as well as experience from the group on how these might communicate with each other. For example: Can my old equipment talk to the new e125 with SeaTalk, NMEA, etc.? Will I need converters or what? I'm not good with this just yet... Thank you in advance.

Current Configuration:
  • Raymarine analog 48" open array radar
  • Reymarine RL80C Pathfinder Plus Display/Controller
  • Raymarine A70
  • Raymarine ST7001+ Autopilot
  • Raymarine ST60 Depthfinder
  • Sea Ray Navigator computer by Maptech
  • Dual Cummins engine status display's which work very well

Walter


I'm back, had to do a few domestics; wife got home to day.
Anyway, SeaRay tossed a strange collection of electonic crap on these boats. When I got mine it still had a NorthStar chartplotter. Im not a NorthStar fan and this poor thing couldn't find a satalite to save its soul. The propriatary North Star gps antena was inop. Needless to say that whole system is gone. Also strange was that my boat had only one depth finder. A B&G depth and speed rig hooked up to a set of through hull fixtures, center to the keel in the forward most portion of the engine room. Port probe has a speed wheel and the starboard probe is a depth transducer. Hey they work great but that was it. I boat around a bunch of sand marshes. I'm always looking to anchor up close to the beach. I like knowing depth and hate relying on just one instrument. On this boat getting less than 6 feet gets me nervous. I installed an additional through hull tranducer powered by a Garmin GSD sounder. (Thank you MAxMarine Electrinos. By the way, they sell a bunch of stuff on e-bay. But if you buy off their web page it's another 5% off). The transducer is placed forward of the starboard engine. I was considering an in hull tranducer but determined the hull was too thick to get accurate measurements. If you ever install a through hull on this boat make sure you purchase the long/extended shank of what ever tranducer you get. I didn't and ended up 1/2 inch shy for the jam nut to properly inguage; bummer. This here 510 Sundancer is a beast; a real tank. The core drilled out of the hull was impressive to say the least. Had to buy the longer shank version of the same transducer. Block time a and man hours wasted. (I ended up selling the original transducer to a lad in California. He got a heck of a deal)

Just a thought should you go that route. Anyway, Now I have two depth read outs. The good old reliable B&G and the new sounder displays data on the Garmin 4212. It also provides panoramic display of the bottom as well as the occasional fish meandering by.
 
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This is the plug that was bored out of my boat for the transducer installation
 

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You know we were so much in awe at being out on the water on this beautiful boat I didn't take notice of what the wide open was. I'll be back on her next weekend, as we're going out of town for a couple of days, I'll let you knowk.

Haven't seen to many posts on this thread. Kind of wondering if we are the only ones.

I'm guessing your boat is put up for the winter. Thinking that was a chore . We have been taking ours out now and again. Was on a three day, on the hook, cruse a couple weeks ago. Interesting points to be learned for the next outing. Biggest thing was getting in shallow water freaks me out. The big props start kicking up a lot of sand in depth less than 8/9 feet. Other guys were putting their stern right up to the shore. I use to do that with my 400DA. Not this time; I anchored out a bit. Safe and not sorry. The swim platform worked like a charm so getting the dingy deployed was easy. Guess that's the other big lesson learned, best pay attention to the dingy out board. I had not problems but see that as a weak link.

Anyway, hope all is well with you and ZHOPKA
 
Great stuff.

Yes, ZHOPKA is away for the winter. Inside storage an hour away from us in Milwaukee. I'm there a few times a week doing updates, maintenance, etc. for our upcoming first full season. Just bought new, reman, Raymarine e125 MFD and Super HD radar to replace 2002 era pathfinder. Installing it over the next month. Anyone know an easy path to run the new radar cable on this boat? I assume the path is straight starboard down behind the fuel selector valves along the starboard walls to under the dash. if anyone has done it, please feel free... See you all on the water soon. Walter
 
Great stuff.

Yes, ZHOPKA is away for the winter. Inside storage an hour away from us in Milwaukee. I'm there a few times a week doing updates, maintenance, etc. for our upcoming first full season. Just bought new, reman, Raymarine e125 MFD and Super HD radar to replace 2002 era pathfinder. Installing it over the next month. Anyone know an easy path to run the new radar cable on this boat? I assume the path is straight starboard down behind the fuel selector valves along the starboard walls to under the dash. if anyone has done it, please feel free... See you all on the water soon. Walter

Installed mine a couple months ago. You got the path pretty well figured. There is a bit of doing getting around the salon ac unit. I disconnected the flexible air supply hose to get better access. Your Garmin has plenty of cable and it will be evident where you have to snake things. Suggest having an extra set of hands and maybe an old stiff throttle cable to lead the way of the new cables. I also ran into an inordinate number of bundle ties holding the old cables. I also used a 5 inch pedestal along with a 4 degree wedge to mount my radar. Figure this configuration will set the unit more level to the horizon when under way.

My next project it getting the TVs set up. Think I'm going with the ToGo system. Still up in the air about refurbishing the old system or retro fitting something new.

Well, hope your instillation goes well.
Later
Ron
 

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We just went with an HD antenna for regular TV, a tmobile hotspot for connectivity and Amazon FireTV. It's cheap and if you do it right, can find any show you want without Directv or Dish expense.
 
We just went with an HD antenna for regular TV, a tmobile hotspot for connectivity and Amazon FireTV. It's cheap and if you do it right, can find any show you want without Directv or Dish expense.

Just a straight HD anennna. Interesting! Being the ever noise guy I am, which antenna did you chose and why?

What ever I di it will be a red letter day when I rid myself of the darned dome. Just don't like those things.

Linda and I were just talking to the Winegard folks about their wifi expanders. They have a 4GIXM that will provide ATT 4g nation wide. Thinking I can get additional coverage when we cruse to the islands this spring. Just have to pre pay the ATT annual data fee of $360 plus what ever Bahamas coverage there might be. Anyway; It makes the boat into a wifi hot spot so on and so forth. First mate bought a nice wifi smart tv so I'm thinking that's the ticket. Otherwise I'm pouring money into fixing the current tv antenna set up and ending up with 2001 technology.
 
Just noted Zhopka has Cummins power plants. My boat has Catapiller 3196 motors. I replaced the aftrecoolers PDQ so she should be good to go for some time. Anyway, I'm running 660 hp a side; wot is around 30 mph plus dependent on weight. Of course I was really interested in the cruse power settings, on plane numbers and so on. I've been told the Cummins powered boats are much faster and their cruse numbers are better. Did you let the ponies run on your shake down; any idea what your boat will do.
I hear that the 510DA with the optional 3406E CATs makes the boat amazing!
 
I hear that the 510DA with the optional 3406E CATs makes the boat amazing!

Heard that as well. Just not many of them around.

Im running the 3196 Catapiller. It's a strong, reliable motor if the after coolers have been changed out. I can run an easy 30 kt even loaded with fuel and stuff. It will be next season before we hear what ZHOPKA can do. Think he has the hot rod motors. All that being said, WOT performance is great and all, but that's not where you spend a majority of you cruse. My 510 will plane at 18 kts with less then 2000 rpm. My 400DA couldn't do that even with trim tabs 30% over sized.
 
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Agreed, the 510DA is a wonderful boat. We came very close to upgrading to one a couple of years ago but the one we looked at wasn’t maintained very well at all. There were a few in Southern California we considered but decided to stay with our 410 since it is the perfect size for where we boat.
 
Agreed, the 510DA is a wonderful boat. We came very close to upgrading to one a couple of years ago but the one we looked at wasn’t maintained very well at all. There were a few in Southern California we considered but decided to stay with our 410 since it is the perfect size for where we boat.


She is truly a great vessel; really handles well. I had the 3196 Cats reworked by Catapiler so I'm thinking she'll be reliable for many years. Only negative issue is berthing her. That 15.5 ft beam of this year model of the 510DA is a little difficult to put in places I use to go with my 400DA. Majority of slips in this area max out at 15 so that bumps me up to the so called "super slips" and those are hard to find. When looking for a place to keep her I was told by one marina that they were not insureded for any boats over 48 ft. Another said even with it on the out side slip the vessel would stick out beyond their authorized foot print. Some Florida right of way thing. Some of issues I didn't consider when I signed for her. All that aside, she is a great boat.
 
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OK Sports Fans... Here are pictures of the completed electronics upgrade. The goal was to get new technology, functionality, aesthetics, without putting an obscene amount of money into our beautifully maintained, yet, 2002 boat. Out with the 2002 era old and in with (newer) Raymarine eSieries 12" and 9" MFD's, matching model depth & pilot control head, and remanufactured super HD enhanced radar. All hardware found online and purchased for under $4000. Cables, connectors, etc., were a couple hundred bucks more. All in for less than $5000. A brand new Axiom, radar, pilot and instruments install would have been well over $20K. So far, I'm really happy... Can't test fully until she's back in the water, but, this is exactly what I was going for. I'm not an expert, but, I am a bit of a pro now. Feel free to ask any questions. Thanks for reading.

Walter

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OK Sports Fans... Here are pictures of the completed electronics upgrade. The goal was to get new technology, functionality, aesthetics, without putting an obscene amount of money into our beautifully maintained, yet, 2002 boat. Out with the 2002 era old and in with (newer) Raymarine eSieries 12" and 9" MFD's, matching model depth & pilot control head, and remanufactured super HD enhanced radar. All hardware found online and purchased for under $4000. Cables, connectors, etc., were a couple hundred bucks more. All in for less than $5000. A brand new Axiom, radar, pilot and instruments install would have been well over $20K. So far, I'm really happy... Can't test fully until she's back in the water, but, this is exactly what I was going for. I'm not an expert, but, I am a bit of a pro now. Feel free to ask any questions. Thanks for reading.

Walter

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Got my instrument lighting pretty much figured out. Main issue was the dimmer control had failed. Couldn't seem to find an OEM replacement. That and I was missing a power unit for one of the back light strips. Bottom line; time to start from scratch. Ended up replacing the dimmer control with two BlueSea Deck Hand dimmer controls: one controls the spoiler lights and the other the instrument and panel back lights.

The spoiler has its own on/off switch with a dedicated dimmer switch next to it.

The back lights were replaced with light strips and transformers from Flounder Pounder. They are new 12 volt systems. Also had to change out the instrument light bulbs to 12 volt as well. The on/off function for the instrument lights is controlled by the navigation light switch with the dimmer control mounted where the windshield washer switch is normally located. (Never used that system. Don't think routing water through an old flex line just over the salon ceiling is such a hot idea. So that switch is out of there and the space is put to good use)

All kind of a pain. Mostly in locating the wires and plugs connecting the various light systems. Main thing is I'm happy to button up the switch panel and never touch those retaining screws again.
 

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