Really now, all 4 of them

I have long time Canadian friends and they are hard core haters of Trump...they have me to pick on so that fuels the fire. To figure out a why... We in the US hear very little about Canada, unless it's connected to the US. In Canada the US news and US networks are all over Canada....so Canadians know pretty much everything going on down here and without a doubt we are more entertaining be it politics, sports and current events, so when you are consumed by us you form opinions and they are pretty passionate about them.
When ever I need to feel better about Canadians and their political positions I call my mom... :).. she is Canadian and lives in Canada and is a hard core Trump supporter... She has actually lost Canadian friends over her feelings and comments for Trump... Go figure

Not to split hairs but they don't know pretty much everything going on down here. They only know what our news media tells them (which used to be enough). As I told a left leaning friend of mine, If you get your news from MMM then of course you hate Trump. How could you not? I can only offer an alternative point of view, and hope for the best. Propaganda is a powerful thing.
 
Not to split hairs but they don't know pretty much everything going on down here. They only know what our news media tells them (which used to be enough).
To make things worse... The Canadian networks that are primarily liberal trying to compete with the American networks push their own anti Republican (Trump) agenda....
But there are conservative news and right leaning networks and there is Fox...so they have a choice.... But as my Canadian 92 year old aunt will tell me ..Fox is fake news...
 
Hey guys, when one of my USA friends tries to get me fired up about your political issues I usually just say "We've got our own set of challenges with our current leader, Mr. Trudeau"... and leave it at that. Oh I have an opinion, but its just not my place.

Let me assure you of a couple of things relating to comments on this thread. Yes, it would seem that many Canadians dislike Trump and watching CNN is a major contributor. I am sadly disappointed that these same people actually re-elected our Mr. Trudeau recently.

That being said, there are a fair number of Canadians that know how to access Google and Youtube to get the other side of the story (thank goodness) and actually wish we had a leader like your POTUS. Unfortunately we've just got a "politician" (and a lousy one too) that thinks he's a rock star loved by all.

Interesting times.
 
To try to explain a bit about non-Americans and views about Trump. America, more than any other country, is involved directly or indirectly in virtually every country in the world. Having evolved into a global economic and military superpower, that is your honor, and there is responsibility that comes with it. So the world is very interested in the actions and views of your leaders that impact the world. That has been the case for years.

What is diffferent is this POTUS. Never in history has any president been treated like this. Its not the Dems or the media that are different now. What is different is Trump himself. He is making or trying to make some radical shifts in what his predecessors have done in trade, domestic and international policy, and learning as he goes. He is using the only thing he does well, which is tough business negotiation leverage tactics, in every “deal”. Its an adversarial approach to how he governs. When you take an adversarial stance, you by definition create adversaries.

Someone said earlier that others outside of the US are misinformed because all we get is the media. sorry folks, but in today’s world, we all have access to exactly the same information as each and every one of you in the US. And in recent years, most of us have seen and read virtually everything you have in the Us. So if we are ill-informed, then so are all of you. Of course there may be some secret, US citizen-only, web site that y’all are the only ones that have access too. If so, give us all the URL and we will VPN into it.

So go ahead and criticize Trudeau. I do all the time. Or any other world leader or politician. Just make sure you do your research, but pile on with a well informed view. And don’t be surprised that the world’s well informed are doing the same with The POTUS.

What is different is this POTUS. He is the reason that Trump is the first President in history that has been treated this way internally and Globally. Its not some brand new deep state or massive global media conspiracy led by the Dems. Its trump and his personality, his actions, and his ethics and his way of trying to get things done. I don’t think he is a good reflection of America as an individual or a role model for the world’s future leaders on what a world leader should act like. But time will tell whether he is considered successful.

What I can say is that Trump gets respect on the world stage not because of himself (and actually its more “despite” himself), but because of the enormous significance of the Office he holds.
 
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Don’t be fooled by what you read or see in the media.
Washington DC is full of corruption. Members of Congress, Bureaucrats, Lobbyists, political operatives, government contractors, etc. are primarily thieves.
It’s where many of them make their millions either directly or through family members.
Wives, Husbands, Children, Siblings land sweet lucrative deals to filter cash.
Many of those in the media bounce back and forth between media jobs and the political industrial complex.
They’ve been stealing so much for so long that they consider it a right.
Trump is none of these and as an outsider he is upsetting the Apple cart and threatening their money flow.
That’s the biggest reason they hate him.
Hillary was expected to win and many in the political industrial complex were positioning themselves, or their proxies, for lucrative spots.
That’s why guys like Comey and his ilk were putting their fingers on the scale for her.
They expected rich rewards in return.
Then along came Trump and ruined it for them.
Most of the Republicans in Congress, as a group, hate him too for the same reasons.
But they like control.
Control means they can get the bulk of the high profile and lucrative committee assignments along with all the perks from contractors, lobbyists, etc. that come with them.
They know their base is behind Trump so they have to make believe they like him.
 
So if we are ill-informed, then so are all of you.

I'm not sure I have a political opinion on Canada. You guys voted for Trudeau so you get what comes along with him.

I voted for Trump and many of us believe the US political system is so broken....it needs someone who can reboot it. It isn't a GOP or Dem thing although both have contributed to the mess we have today. The US was built on immigrants adding knowledge, wealth and capabilities to the country. (My Dad came from Greece as a teenager in 1925.) The Dems want to lower the bar so that anyone who steps into the country gets free healthcare, welfare, housing, education and food. Further, they want to redistribute the wealth of the country. Many of us think this is the wrong path for the US.

So it isn't about reaching a political compromise (that is what got us to where we are today)....it is a winner take all fight for the soul of the country. While I cringe from time to time with what Trump says......I believe he is doing the right things for the country. That is the single reason that the Dems (and other Global leaders) are trying so hard to hurt him. The best economy, lowest unemployment ever, the strongest military, illegal border crossings are down 70% since he took office and we are bringing troops home.
 
Don’t be fooled by what you read or see in the media.
Washington DC is full of corruption. Members of Congress, Bureaucrats, Lobbyists, political operatives, government contractors, etc. are primarily thieves.
It’s where many of them make their millions either directly or through family members.
Wives, Husbands, Children, Siblings land sweet lucrative deals to filter cash.
Many of those in the media bounce back and forth between media jobs and the political industrial complex.
They’ve been stealing so much for so long that they consider it a right.
Trump is none of these and as an outsider he is upsetting the Apple cart and threatening their money flow.
That’s the biggest reason they hate him.
Hillary was expected to win and many in the political industrial complex were positioning themselves, or their proxies, for lucrative spots.
That’s why guys like Comey and his ilk were putting their fingers on the scale for her.
They expected rich rewards in return.
Then along came Trump and ruined it for them.
Most of the Republicans in Congress, as a group, hate him too for the same reasons.
But they like control.
Control means they can get the bulk of the high profile and lucrative committee assignments along with all the perks from contractors, lobbyists, etc. that come with them.
They know their base is behind Trump so they have to make believe they like him.


100% correct on all counts. BTW Ted Cruze submitted a Constitutional Amendment limiting Congressional terms. Wanna bet it goes nowhere.
 
100% correct on all counts. BTW Ted Cruze submitted a Constitutional Amendment limiting Congressional terms. Wanna bet it goes nowhere.
Oh it won't. I'm paraphrasing but I believe it came up during McConnell's re-election when asked about term limits. He said something like, "the voters determine the term limits". These guys aren't going to vote themselves out of office.

We need more states involved with Article V. We have 15 states signed up for the Convention of States resolution.

We also need to abolish the 17th Amendment. If we did, we wouldn't see Senators like Schumer. The whole state would be represented versus the popular vote in metropolitan areas....but I digress
 
I'm not sure I have a political opinion on Canada. You guys voted for Trudeau so you get what comes along with him.

I voted for Trump and many of us believe the US political system is so broken....it needs someone who can reboot it. It isn't a GOP or Dem thing although both have contributed to the mess we have today. The US was built on immigrants adding knowledge, wealth and capabilities to the country. (My Dad came from Greece as a teenager in 1925.) The Dems want to lower the bar so that anyone who steps into the country gets free healthcare, welfare, housing, education and food. Further, they want to redistribute the wealth of the country. Many of us think this is the wrong path for the US.

So it isn't about reaching a political compromise (that is what got us to where we are today)....it is a winner take all fight for the soul of the country. While I cringe from time to time with what Trump says......I believe he is doing the right things for the country. That is the single reason that the Dems (and other Global leaders) are trying so hard to hurt him. The best economy, lowest unemployment ever, the strongest military, illegal border crossings are down 70% since he took office and we are bringing troops home.

Definitely for the record, I did not vote for Trudeau! I have never voted other than Conservative. That's as far right as we can go up here!.

Your leaders need to reflect the majority views of your people that vote. That is what makes a free democracy. Its your country.

I just don't think that Trump's reflects the strong ethics of the American people (at least the many that I know and have met), and the highly respected office of POTUS. I wish you had a stronger Republican alternative in 2016. Its sad that there was no one that could stand up to Trump back then, and had the pulse of the American people. They could be doing very similar things in a much less disruptive and divisive way at home and on the world stage. They might even be able to work with the Dems to get some things done and not have polarized politics. And the POTUS would be respected on the global stage for BOTH his accomplishments and his moral standing, and for being a true leader of the free world. I often wonder what you tell your young children that are watching him. Is he a role model you tell your children they should emulate? If not, that says something.

(That said, I don't think I would tell my children to emulate Trudeau. But that is not because of him personally in any way. Just his socialist politics that I object to.)

I truly hope you all can get things back on track down there and have your government and fellow citizens all feeling part of one great country again. With with pride in your leaders and what they have done for both America and the world.

Anyway, I had said earlier I would not wade into threads about other countries politics, and I fell back into it. I would apologize for that, but you would just say "that's so Canadian", and I wouldn't mean it anyway, so I will just step out again and get back to the boating threads.
 
I often wonder what you tell your young children that are watching him.


I don't have young children. I have four daughters in their 20s and 30s and they all voted for Trump. Hillary wasn't an option for any of them because they work and don't want to see more of their money go to people who do not want to contribute (but are always willing to criticize) this great country. They also feel disenfranchised by the Dem party that EXPECTS women to fall in line and vote Dem every time.

If your intent is to criticize our President and shame those that voted for him....that is your right. I just don't go along with it. He has faults as we all do but he has done exactly what he told his supporters he was going to do if we elected him.

Again....when you live in a country....the lens you view politics through is much different than you hear on the news.
 
If you strip away the trump-haters' hypocrisy, what you are left with are no less ethically challenged than Trump. Trump has simply stripped away the polished veneer that people of power share. Personally, although I sometimes cringe for his sake, I ultimately find it refreshing. My bet is many voters will agree in 2020.

I hope none of us were under the illusion that the swamp would go down without a fight.
 
I can say that in the summer of 2015 while spending 3 months in Canadian waters while doing the great loop we were shocked by what we heard. At that time The Donald was just one of about 13 republicans running the gauntlet and we stated we didn’t think he had a host chance in hell.

To our surprise the majority of Canadians we spoke with which were more than 50 they hoped like hell the Donald would win and then annex Canada as they couldn’t stand their clown.

Now I will say we were not in the North East French Canadian part of the country.

My wife woke me up around 5:30 in the morning when Trump was declared the winner and I couldn’t hardly believe it. Just goes to show you when a bunch of Canadians come to the states to vote anything’s possible and I support POTUS and look for another four years. If he’s not re-elected then I probably will have seen the last Republican President in my Lifetime.

OH, I do wish like hell he wouldn’t just himself in the foot so often as he only has ten toes!
 
When I've gone to Thunder Bay, Ontario I've had similar experiences. Many folks walking by would stop to BS. At first I expected it to be about boats or my run into Canada. What they really all wanted to talk about was politics, they had geat interest in Trump, some actually said they'd like to trade.
 
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/...tings-remain-low-especially-among-key-allies/
I am not sure if Pew has done a more recent survey. This was from 2018.
Most people talking to you as a visitor to their country will be polite and try to find ways to find common ground. Its like when I hang out with my wife's cracker relatives in Orlando. Fantastic people and firmly Republican. They tell me that they don't like Trump as a person but they like his party and his domestic policy for the most part. I might tell them I would trade Trudeau for Trump. But I wouldn't mean it. I would trade Trudeau for a Conservative Prime Minister in a flash though.
 
The USMCA itself will pay for the wall in year one, say thank you Mr. President!
Yesterday Pelosi had a news conference. She was bragging up how they made the USMCA what it is, so much better than what Trump put in front of them she said.

When Trump first talked of dumping NAFTA and re-negotiating he received nothing but criticism. The economy would tank, jobs would be lost, unemployment would go up.
 

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