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One battery per motor and one house battery..I can try switching cables around both engine batteries are new now
I think I would put port battery on starboard side and starboard battery on portside and see if there is any change. Good luck and hoping for a simple fix.
 
One battery per motor and one house battery..I can try switching cables around both engine batteries are new now

A dedicated house battery on a 330DA? So the batteries under the bench aren’t in parallel? I’ve seen lots of different 330 battery layouts, but that would be a new one to me.
 
A dedicated house battery on a 330DA? So the batteries under the bench aren’t in parallel? I’ve seen lots of different 330 battery layouts, but that would be a new one to me.
Maybe I was incorrect or backwards on my assumption that single battery was house and the other two were for engines I apologize but I'm all ears for fixes..you are correct the two under the bench are linked together..while pointing out my ignorance I feel that you may have forgotten to add any possible solutions you know of from years of boating...
 
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Whoa there! I'm not "pointing out your ignorance"!

I'm on record here as stating that Sea Ray often mixes and matches battery config - even in the same model year.

Step 1 is to figure out which of your batteries is doing what. We couldn't make assumptions about battery config the year your boat was built because of variables from the factory, so we certainly can't make any after X amount of owners and 23 years.

So you have two batteries in parallel and a single in the engine room? (that means no generator, right?)

Which one did you replace?
 
Hey Lk St Clair Peeps. I am heading down to Cedar Point Marina the first weekend in August and just wanted to check with the group if there is anything in particular to watch out for while approaching Cedar Point Marina? I have never been there, only as close as Kelly's Island (last season).
I thought I would do a quick check and see if people such as RollerCoastr or BlueOne could chime in, as I believe they are very familiar with the area?
Plan to head out of Anchor Bay early Thursday August 1st and arrive sometime in the early afternoon. I am assuming about 5.5 hours of run time from Fair Haven, MI to the Cedar Point Marina if I am running about 26knts.
 
Hey Lk St Clair Peeps. I am heading down to Cedar Point Marina the first weekend in August and just wanted to check with the group if there is anything in particular to watch out for while approaching Cedar Point Marina? I have never been there, only as close as Kelly's Island (last season).
I thought I would do a quick check and see if people such as RollerCoastr or BlueOne could chime in, as I believe they are very familiar with the area?
Plan to head out of Anchor Bay early Thursday August 1st and arrive sometime in the early afternoon. I am assuming about 5.5 hours of run time from Fair Haven, MI to the Cedar Point Marina if I am running about 26knts.
Hey Brent
We just came back from there. It’s pretty straight forward entering. They have floating docks and it’s a nice marina. Where the docks meet land it could be wet though. Depending on wind conditions. It’ll literally fluctuate hourly. Kinda wild. Roller keeps his boat there so I’m sure he’ll chime in.
 
Yeah, there aren't any real tricks to the approach - especially with the depths how they are this year!

Having said that, plot a course all the way to the entrance. Range markers and buoys for the shipping channel can confuse boaters into going out of their way. The entrance opens away from your approach, but as long as you have a waypoint it will be obvious enough.

The dockhands don't carry radios. (don't get me started)

CP wants you to stop at the fuel pier or transient wall to check in before taking your dock. It's a nice fuel pier, so you may was well head directly to the copper-roofed hut at the end of the pier and shout to them that you want some diesel. If one of your crew can walk down the pier to the office while you're fueling, you'll be 1 step ahead.

They'll assign you to the near-side of pier 11, which is the one just past the fuel pier / Famous Dave's. Pier 11 doesn't have center pilings between slips, so if you want the assistance of a dockhand over there, you'll have to ask for it. If you don't have a well-neighbor, it's no big deal even in wind. The fingers have uprights and there's plenty of room to maneuver.

Don't buy park tickets at the gate - you'll get better packages and offers at the marina office.
 
Hey Lk St Clair Peeps. I am heading down to Cedar Point Marina the first weekend in August and just wanted to check with the group if there is anything in particular to watch out for while approaching Cedar Point Marina?
As great lakes said it's as simple as it looks... Coming into the bay I don't get too close to cedar point shore but that's it. Across from there where the arrow is pointed is a nice sandy bottom anchorage to take the boat or dingy over for a swim... Have fun !!

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Rich - sorry I missed you during your visit. I saw your boats, but not when they appeared to be occupied!

Brent, it will likely take you a lot less than 5.5 hours. It's almost exactly 100 statute miles from MacRay, so maybe 105 from Fair Haven? You'll also pick up 1-3 mph while in the river.

Famous Dave's is obvious, but there's another restaurant in the marina next to the pool called Bay Harbor. Honestly, it can suck, especially at those prices, but you can also ask for bar menu for additional choices and service tends to be good.

Make sure to visit the Breakers Hotel. It's been completely renovated, has a few restaurants, bars and takes much more advantage of the beautiful beach than it did in the past. With tickets, you can walk through the park to the hotel, but there's also a free shuttle from your parking lot. There's a courtesy phone to call the for the shuttle at the corner of the building closest to your pier.
 
Brent, it will likely take you a lot less than 5.5 hours. It's almost exactly 100 statute miles from MacRay, so maybe 105 from Fair Haven? You'll also pick up 1-3 mph while in the river.

I just heard the other day that the river is flowing twice as fast as it typically does... That would be 5/6mph over the speed at cruising rpm... That would be fun... one way anyway :)
 
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As great lakes said it's as simple as it looks... Coming into the bay I don't get too close to cedar point shore but that's it. Across from there where the arrow is pointed is a nice sandy bottom anchorage to take the boat or dingy over for a swim... Have fun !!

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Thanks for the arrow Blue, that will be nice to remember for the next time we visit.
 
I just heard the other day that the river is flowing twice as fast as it typically does... That would be 5/6mph over cruising speed... That would be fun... one way anyway :)

wow. Well, you and I have the solution to that anyway: go to Erie, don't go back. :D
 
Whoa there! I'm not "pointing out your ignorance"!

I'm on record here as stating that Sea Ray often mixes and matches battery config - even in the same model year.

Step 1 is to figure out which of your batteries is doing what. We couldn't make assumptions about battery config the year your boat was built because of variables from the factory, so we certainly can't make any after X amount of owners and 23 years.

So you have two batteries in parallel and a single in the engine room? (that means no generator, right?)

Which one did you replace?
Sorry for snappy response..had misread in my head your response I apologize..have had a very difficult boating season up to this point and frustration is setting in..correct no generator battery that I replaced was under bench starboard side and that is the motor I'm having a problem starting from standard ignition switch without having to use emergency ignition switch..plan on just trying to go threw everything this weekend
 
Well I could've been more clear in making my point about variables in battery configurations. Sorry about that, and your your boating season so far.

This might be simple: When batteries are connected to each other in parallel (neg to neg, pos to pos), they become a battery "bank" and the circuit sees them as a single 12V battery. If that bank was weak, chances are very high that BOTH batteries had problems. Now that you have a new battery and an old battery linked together, you're only going to get the average (more or less) of what each can deliver. Batteries in banks have to be replaced in pairs. If the battery on the port side is old, it's demanding current from the charger that the new battery linked to it doesn't need. That will shorten the life of the new battery, and possibly drastically. Go buy another battery that matches the new one asap. I'm guessing that will solve the problem, but if not, it's still a necessary purchase.
 
Awesome explanation thank you for taking the time I will buy another battery on my to the boat and fingers crossed. I'm wondering if my whole thought is wrong and the one single battery in engine compartment is the only battery used for starting..gonna pull cables and see what exactly is still working/starting..but honestly thanks again..words that are typed aren't always read they way they were meant so again I apologize for being snappy Rollr
 
You have an awesome boat - you should be having an awesome boating season!!!

I had a ‘96 330DA. One of the things I noticed when talking to other owners was how different the battery configuration could be. The 330 was offered with different engines, drives, with or without a generator and the production run was long, so if a configuration is possible, it probably exists!

Sea Ray’s 12V strategy was fairly consistent however. Two banks for boats w/o a genny. One dedicated to starting one engine and “critical systems” such as engine hatch lift, nav systems/lights, CO detectors, some pumps etc. This may be a single battery, or 2 in parallel. The other bank does double duty of starting the other engine, and running the “house” systems: interior lights, fridge, water pump, radio etc. This bank typically has a higher capacity than the other.

Yes, that’s a great idea: move around the boat to see what operates from the single battery and record that. (don’t forget sump and bilge pumps) Don’t listen to anyone else about which runs from which - including me!
 
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