an illegal ,illegally carrying a pistol take the room temperature challenge and loses in Napa County

She should have immediately asked to see his hands when she was on the passenger side. That guy was giving off a ton of bad vibes from the start. How many rounds did she fire? All of them.
 
Counted it , 15 rounds the whole clip. Good for her, I hope she dropped that clip slammed home another and unloaded that one on him.
 
While I'm fine with how this concluded, I'll point out a few things...

First, those that think she should have been more on guard because he was "giving off bad vibes", I understand what you're saying. But, I would bet, that this is typical behavior for a traffic stop with this type of individual...She didn't seem complacent, yet she didn't seem to take it more than another day at the office.

Second, she's lucky to be alive...This could have ended differently very easily if he was a better shot...He got the drop on her and he didn't exit the vehicle. Had he exited and made himself a harder target, who knows the outcome...

Third, I've heard cops in stress situations and she seemed very composed...I'd be curious her background, etc...She was very careful to stay behind the B pillar for cover...That comes from training and experience, and likely saved her life...

Fourth, that guy had no chance sitting in that seat...She unleashed every round at that seat...Part of me says it wasn't necessary, but I could make an argument that it was just as easily...

Sheriffs Depts in Cali are fighting the liberal state. From what I've read they understand the problem and are far more conservative.
 
As a former LEO Firearms Instructor I'd give her an A for her reaction to the situation. As far as the guy giving off bad vibes, any time you stop a person who is/could be in the country illegally they give off bad vibes. Even happens often with minorities who live here legally--they do not trust the police.

I watched the video several times. It looked like her reaction to remove herself from danger started as soon as his right hand made the fast movement with the handgun, just before he started firing. That is quite possibly what saved her life. She was standing in the right position (to the rear of the driver) and when she saw his hand come up she ducked and retreated.

The only thing she did that I might (emphasis on "might) find fault with was getting on the radio and calling out her shots fired call. In doing that she took at least one hand (and her attention) away from drawing her gun and taking her attention away from the bad guy.

I don't know what their department policy is, but speaking for myself, I probably would have used the gun first, radio second.
 
Prayers out that one of our Blue Lives Matter survived to serve another day...Thanks be to God...
 
to the OP - why did you find the need to connect this incident to President Trump?

I have never been a law enforcement officer. I have never walked up the window of a vehicle wondering what I am encountering. Honestly - I don't have the intestinal fortitude that those women and men have to muster every day on their job - that's how much I respect our law enforcement professionals..

By default - I support those who serve to protect all of us - regardless of our feelings about progressive or conservative.

There are times - that people who carry a badge do wrong things. They should be prosecuted aggressively because as citizens we hold them to a higher standard.

This is a clear cut case - perp - pulled a gun and shot.

What does who is sitting in the White House as a duly elected President have to do with anything?

Note - this is not about me being a Trump supporter - or not. Whole discussion about my feelings there - but a different topic.

Same question if this occurred when President Obama was the duly elected President. Would you make the same comment about President Obama would have a field day with this?
 
This incident pees me off. The guy was a known bad guy, bad stuff in his record including previously assaulting a police officer. ICE had requested he be detained previously and CA refuses to honor the request. What makes sense for one police agency to refuse to work with another.....but that's where we're at right now.

Hector asked for it and he got it....but she just as easily could have been hit....I hope she kissed her rabbits foot after.
 
As a former LEO I applaud her actions and reactions. She did what was necessary to make sure she went home that night. While I have never been involved in a real life shooting I have been through the simulator several times and believe it or not you get sweaty palms and elevated heart rate even in the 'fake' scenario so I can only imagine her state of mind. Also, in most scenarios officers aren't sure how many rounds they fired.

Several years ago my step-son was in about his 2nd year as a police officer (now a detective corporal). He was on a call for a man barricaded in a house with a hostage. The man came out and pointed his weapon at my step-son. My step-son fired and another officer also fired. The man was hit twice but lived. He said he wasn't sure if he fired 3 or 4 rounds. They had to check his weapon to see how many rounds were missing.
 
John Correia of Active Self Protection has broken down literally 1000s of shooting videos. He just posted his take on this shooting. I'm glad the Deputy survived. When John reviewed the shot in slow motion, yikes, she's lucky to be alive.

 
John did an excellent job of reviewing and critiquing this incident. The advantage of being able to review it in slow motion adds an element to the critique that helps him a lot.

Having critiqued a few police shooting situations (including one I was in) there are generally a few mistakes that the officers make. The unfortunate thing is that officers are reluctant to criticize fellow officers who have been in shootings. This leads to the mistakes made just being pushed under the rug and not turned into learning points.

John pulls no punches when it comes to mistakes officers made in shooting situations but he does it with the objective that those mistakes are used to train others.

LTD330, thanks for putting that link to John's video in there for all of us to see.
 
As I said in my post #7, and John says in his video, staying behind the B pillar is what saved her...She's been trained and congrats to her for not getting complacent and walking forward...She could retreat easily...

A lot happened that day to save her life. If he had waited a bit for her to relax and come forward, perhaps a different outcome... He was fast...no one could have beat him to the draw.
 
Been in similar situations including being shot at and unable to return fire because of the hazard, been on the scene of more of them involving others than I can remember, also represented guys involved in shootings countless times when I was on the board of a Union, later I investigated plenty of them as a Commander, and sat on numerous review boards.
She did the right thing! Great job. End of story.
These things happen fast and you never know how someone is going to handle the situation.
She did fantastic.
The hope is that training results in a conditioned response and instincts kick in.
Anytime you win and the bad guy loses it’s a good thing.
 
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Her officer survival tactics training work well for her. She knew where to stand and did a good job of not going forward. That is likely what saved her bacon.

Boat guy was right, you cannot out draw someone who is already bringing his gun out to shoot you. The only thing to do is duck and take cover then shoot the bad guy. She did well and will live to see her family again.
 
Critiquing shooting incidents is a great training tool. When we did the simulators the first time it was just me and the instructor in the room but each year after that the whole class would observe and we had to critique what each other had done wrong or done right. We also watched footage of actual officers being shot and killed and critiqued those. That wasn't fun but it was a great learning experience.

She did a great job and it's much easier to see those cues when you have the ability to slow it down or rewind. Think about it, that whole scenario lasted about 1 minute. That's alot to process in that amount of time.
 
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