Brina
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Installing new Icom ic-m400BB replacing Northstar NS100 this weekend on my 330DA. Anyone have any tips/tricks or is it straight forward? Thanks all!
ICOM IC-M400BB Install
- Thread starter Brina
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I replaced a crappy Raymarine radio with the 400 BB very straight forward, run power ,antenna and if you’d like NMEA 0183 for DSC from your plotter and your done. Every radio on our boat is ICOM that’s 5 in total. I’d never buy any other brand.
Brina
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Thx! Will update when completed. No expert in electronics so this will be interesting.
JimG
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- Nov 4, 2008
- 6,085
- Boat Info
- 2007 310 DA
Kohler 5ECD
- Engines
- Twin 350 Mags
Raw Water Cooled
V-Drives
Yes, straight forward... I left the NS100 speaker in place to keep the hole covered an actually hooked it up to the iCom's PA output for fun.
All installation was done through the dash panel. I removed the NS100 box and even used some of the mounting holes to mount the iCom box.
All installation was done through the dash panel. I removed the NS100 box and even used some of the mounting holes to mount the iCom box.
Brina
New Member
Perfect. Thanks Jim. Was the response that I was "hoping" for. Thinking of doing the same thing with the speaker so I dont have to deal with the hole! Appreciate it!
SRMark
Member
I am currently hooking up an Icom 400 bb on my 2004 420 Sundancer. How do you hook up the NMEA 0183 to your plotter. I tried hooking up the NMEA 183 black and white wires from the old Raymarine radio to the yellow and green icom wires and it did not get a position. I also tried a NMEA terminal block that was behind the dash and got nothing. Do you know what I am doing wrong?
The radio she “talker” connections and “listener” connections
They have +/- so you should have 4 wires being connected
+ for listening + for talking etc.
You need to know the connections of your plotter. Just google it.
http://www.icomamerica.com/en/downloads/DownloadDocument.aspx?Document=724
Page 14 has the diagram
SRMark
Member
Thanks. I have a Raymarine RL80c and a Sea Ray Navigator. I thought they might be too old to communicate with the new radio.
SRMark
Member
When I hooked up the "listener" wires to the NMEA 183 terminal block shouldn't I have gotten the position to come up on the Icom screen or do you have to hook up both for it to get position? Also, do I have to enter the MMSI number into the radio first or shouldn't that matter.
JimG
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- Nov 4, 2008
- 6,085
- Boat Info
- 2007 310 DA
Kohler 5ECD
- Engines
- Twin 350 Mags
Raw Water Cooled
V-Drives
You may have to hook up both talk and listen. You do not have to enter MMSI to get position.
Windjammer
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Hate to revive an old thread, but did you wind up hooking both the "listener" and the "talker"? I'm going to replace my old Northstar with the Icom m400bb soon, and I hate to reinvent the wheel.
Thanks
hynespa
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- Jun 7, 2010
- 314
- Boat Info
- 2005 420 Sundancer
- Engines
- T-VD-8.1 S HO MerCruiser (T-420 hp)
@Windjammer - the attached diagram shows how I hooked up my NMEA talkers and listeners from the iCOM to my MFD. The listeners get the GPS position from the MFD and the talkers communicate the coordinates of other boats so the MFD can display it.
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Windjammer
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Hynespa - Thanks for the diagram! It makes things a lot easier to understand - the instructions that came with this thing are a little on the "thin" side.
Windjammer
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Well, changed out radios yesterday and I sure do like the Icom. As with life, things don't always go as planned - in this case you really don't know what you've got until you crack open the dash panel and try to make sense of what I would call a "rats nest." I found the correct NEMA0183 wires from the C80 (talker) to the Icom (listener), and temporarily hooked these up and sure enough, position and time were sporadically displayed on the Icom. But could not find the listener wires going back to the C80 but eventually found the cable and these had been cut off. Why, I don't know as the old NS100 had the DSC capabilities, but DSC on our inland lake is probably an overkill. Went up today to clean up my mess and now the Icom won't display the location/time info. I'm guessing that operating under a metal dock may have something to do with this or one of my connections pulled loose. Will test tomorrow as I've got to run the boat over to a mechanic to get the impellers changed. We'll see what happens.
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Windjammer
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Still no dice on the Icom displaying data from the C80, so I'm guessing one of the NEMA0183 connections pulled loose. That's what I get for using the "button" connectors instead of a terminal block.
Be that as it may, if anyone has a microphone that's in worse shape than mine, they are welcomed to it. Also have the "black box" as well, but I left the speaker in place and I did cut the cables to get them out of the loom.
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SRMark
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Sorry i didn't respond to you question but I haven't gotten mine to work yet. Now that it is back in the water after winter storage I plan to attempt to get the talker and listener hooked up and the extra speaker on the dash.
- Jun 5, 2016
- 5,557
- Boat Info
- 410 Sundancer
2001
12" Axiom and 9" Axiom+ MFD
- Engines
- Cat 3126 V-Drives
Is the unit displaying ????????? or nothing at all?
I’m under a metal roof and loose GPS position. In that case the ICOM beeps at me about every minute or two. If I kill power to my network, I get ????????? Where data should be.
Hope this helps you track down what’s going on.
I’m under a metal roof and loose GPS position. In that case the ICOM beeps at me about every minute or two. If I kill power to my network, I get ????????? Where data should be.
Hope this helps you track down what’s going on.
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Windjammer
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When I had it temporarily hooked up (i.e wires twisted together) data would alternate between the position showing on chartplotter and ??????, which I figured was due to being under the metal roof. So I went ahead and spliced with the "Scotchlok" buttons which may have been a mistake and am guessing I did not get them crimped correctly. Picked up a terminal strip and will try this, maybe this weekend. I still am at a loss why the DSC nema0183 wires were never connected on the original (factory?) install on the NS100.
hynespa
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- Jun 7, 2010
- 314
- Boat Info
- 2005 420 Sundancer
- Engines
- T-VD-8.1 S HO MerCruiser (T-420 hp)
@Windjammer - I used the following:
- Blue Sea Systems terminal block (sold at West Marine)
- Ancor 18-22AWG crimp ring terminals
Everything has stayed solidly attached with no intermittent disconnects.
- Blue Sea Systems terminal block (sold at West Marine) - Ancor 18-22AWG crimp ring terminalsEverything has stayed solidly attached with no intermittent disconnects.
