Fell off bow and hit by prop

please dont tell us you are happy your wife gives hand to the dock attendant after you returned to port ... ;-)

FYI that is a dick head thing to say about my wife - or anyone’s wife - and I don’t appreciate it one bit. Says a lot about you since you think it’s funny.
 
Wow. You folks need to take off your "grumpy pants". Didn't this thread start with the issue of a dangerous boating practice leading to a major injury and an offer to remind people to boat safely?

I am going to repost a link to a video I took a few years ago that that same stupid behavior. Take a look at these future Darwin award winners. Its a bit hard to see, but these were kids sitting on the bow of a cuddy with legs under the rail and the boat bouncing at full speed (at least the life jackets were on so they would find the bodies if they slipped off):
 
Appreciate the safety bulletin, but I must admit it's such a turn off finding a negative in boating, or just in general. Stupid things will happen. I knew a guy who fell down two steps ... broke a hip. Died two days later. Ban all steps. A good friend of mine died day after retiring. Ban retirement. Poor family that was just killed on the highway due to the dummy driving the other car not paying attention. Ban all driving. Diabetes on the rise, ban all sugar. Obesity on the rise. Ban all forks.
It's just so tiring. Live. Laugh. Enjoy. Have fun. Life is already too darn short to worry about the stupid things that can happen..... and they will. Don't confuse this with doing stupid, blatant dumb things. Be smart and enjoy.
 
I have a question. I never got a straight answer either from other boaters or law enforcement as to the rule for “bow riding” in NY. Some say if the boat has designated seating on the bow it’s ok. Our boats have sun pads and I normally say NO to riding on the bow but a few days ago I let my daughter and friend (21 yrs old) sit on the pad as I made the 25 min no wake trip back to the slip I had full view of them the entire time is this “legal”? Is that considered designated seating? .

I took the NYS safe boater course with my son last year. The textbook says bow riding is sitting in any area not intended for passenger use when under way. The manual for your boat states that the fore and aft sun pads should not be used when under way. Therefore i would say using it the when the boat is moving is bow riding. NYS classifies bow riding as reckless operation and a misdemeanor.

From the textbook.
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From the 2005 500 DB manual
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Appreciate the safety bulletin, but I must admit it's such a turn off finding a negative in boating, or just in general. Stupid things will happen. I knew a guy who fell down two steps ... broke a hip. Died two days later. Ban all steps. A good friend of mine died day after retiring. Ban retirement. Poor family that was just killed on the highway due to the dummy driving the other car not paying attention. Ban all driving. Diabetes on the rise, ban all sugar. Obesity on the rise. Ban all forks.
It's just so tiring. Live. Laugh. Enjoy. Have fun. Life is already too darn short to worry about the stupid things that can happen..... and they will. Don't confuse this with doing stupid, blatant dumb things. Be smart and enjoy.

Agreed. Living is dangerous. But totally worth it...
 
I took the NYS safe boater course with my son last year. The textbook says bow riding is sitting in any area not intended for passenger use when under way. The manual for your boat states that the fore and aft sun pads should not be used when under way. Therefore i would say using it the when the boat is moving is bow riding. NYS classifies bow riding as reckless operation and a misdemeanor.

From the textbook.
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From the 2005 500 DB manual
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Doesn't get any simpler than that!
 
If I have guests on board I will direct them to attach midship and stern lines always from the cockpit. Having the extended swim platform they are usually tempted to step out on it but I direct them back into the cockpit. If it is just my wife and I, I prepare all lines, bow, mid and stern well ahead of time sitting at idle before my approach so I can hand the lined off or grab a pole and cleat myself. My wife sits in the chair opposite me until I pry her white knuckles from the dash railing when we are ready to walk off the boat.
 
I think this debate is a heathly one to have.

To be clear, while pulling into any well anywhere, stern or bow in(usually stern), my wife will not be on bow. Just my rule as an operator, I didn’t want to start a right or wrong debate. I feel safer this way and it’s never a problem for us docking. If I miss my mark or whatever then I try again.

This guy was hurt while underway, not docking


So how does the springline magically get on the mid-cleat?

MM
 
I will re-state my position because I'm bored at the moment.

Persons "line handling" on the bow is part of boating and perfectly acceptable in my opinion.

Persons standing on the swim platform, while the boat is being docked, are of very limited or no value, and the captain of the boat should not permit it.
 
You just do this, but from the cockpit to the boat cleat first, then the dock:

She used to work the dock for Frenchy's cafe. I've seen her do that personally. Real nice lady. Haven't seen her in a while though.
 
The Admiral will handle the bow lines on our boat when docking...i will stop the boat prior to approaching the dock so she can climb to the front deck using the side decks...when we stern dock into our slip she will sit on the bow holding the hand rail and remains seated until the boat is stopped ....if we are docking along side a dock such as a gas dock she will remain seated until I bring the bow of the boat close to the dock and stop the boat...she will then stand only long enough to hand or toss the bow line to the dock hand and then immediately sits back down...she will not stand again until the boat is completely tied off.....

cliff
 
Absolutely I think examining our practices and habits is essential to remain and become safer boaters . One thing I don't think debatable is people on deck when underway . They make boats that are designed for the up front experience those are called bow riders.
I agree. Considering that I'd say being on deck could be debatable. It's debatable enough that it's probably what's behind the variations of state regs....not allowed, only if it's equipped for/with seating, only if there are bow rails X" high, only at slow-no wake speeds, only for certain purposes......

Sometimes in some locations my wife is on the bow watching for rocks. I see no reason why she couldn't be there to get some breeze too.....when the conditions are right and the Captain says it's OK.

IMHO this is OK under the right conditions/speed, much better than some of the legal activity shown in another thread http://clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/how-to-handle-or-not-to-handle-waves.88586/
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I like those........'rocks'.......or should I say 'boulders'......:oops:.......
 
I agree. Considering that I'd say being on deck could be debatable. It's debatable enough that it's probably what's behind the variations of state regs....not allowed, only if it's equipped for/with seating, only if there are bow rails X" high, only at slow-no wake speeds, only for certain purposes......

Sometimes in some locations my wife is on the bow watching for rocks. I see no reason why she couldn't be there to get some breeze too.....when the conditions are right and the Captain says it's OK.

IMHO this is OK under the right conditions/speed, much better than some of the legal activity shown in another thread http://clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/how-to-handle-or-not-to-handle-waves.88586/
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So what were we talking about?
 
She used to work the dock for Frenchy's cafe. I've seen her do that personally. Real nice lady. Haven't seen her in a while though.
Obviously she joined the rodeo to compete in calf roping. :) That was something.
 
I agree. Considering that I'd say being on deck could be debatable. It's debatable enough that it's probably what's behind the variations of state regs....not allowed, only if it's equipped for/with seating, only if there are bow rails X" high, only at slow-no wake speeds, only for certain purposes......

Sometimes in some locations my wife is on the bow watching for rocks. I see no reason why she couldn't be there to get some breeze too.....when the conditions are right and the Captain says it's OK.

IMHO this is OK under the right conditions/speed, much better than some of the legal activity shown in another thread http://clubsearay.com/index.php?threads/how-to-handle-or-not-to-handle-waves.88586/
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Your name and that photo are priceless. :)
 

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