Oh, interesting. On the 270 AJ - which is essentially the same hull at a 260 DA - the fresh water tank is under the v-berth. The forward port area of the engine compartment is empty.
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Oh, interesting. On the 270 AJ - which is essentially the same hull at a 260 DA - the fresh water tank is under the v-berth. The forward port area of the engine compartment is empty.
importmonkey
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That would be much better for balancing the boat out! And she'd get on plane quicker! Ours always leaned to port. Batteries, cooler, full fridge, freshwater and guests in the port lounger.
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that sounds very similar to a 240 . standing height is provided at just one position at the lowest point of cabin , just a little forward a big enclosed area between the v berth waste much space without any use. the head is far away from standing height . i,m 5'11" so similar to you .
can you fully stretch in mid cabin on a 260 ? on my 240 i cannot , some few inches are missing . from pictures the pre 2005 240 and 260 appears to be bigger at all for some reason .
I can't positively answer that for you. I don't have a mid-cabin in my configuration. I do recall from boat shows I went to around that time that the mid-cabin was long enough for me to comfortable.
Unrelated, I looked at a 290 AJ a while back looking for more sleeping room. I was unpleasantly surprised that despite having a wider beam, the mid-cabin was too short for me to stretch out.
skibum
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I'm 5'11" and I can fully stretch out in the mid-cabin as long as I keep my toes pointed straight up which really isn't a problem because as near as I can tell, it's exactly 5'11" wide down there. I've considered removing the upholstered strip that runs along the port side to get that extra 2.5" back. I have no idea why they put that there. Can't be used as a pillow.
bbwhitejr
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i always wondered the same. I am 6'3" and we spent all of 1/2 of the first night in the aft cabin-too small. Head room was much better in the 260 than the 240 when we were looking.
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Rohan
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- 2008 Sea Ray 275 Sundancer, NorthStar 657 Chartplotter, 2.4m fibreglass tender 3.3 Mercury O/B
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Has anyone put a seacock on raw water pickup from leg – 350 MAG?
I have a Seacore 350 MAG which is obviously FWC, with a heat exchanger sitting above the front of the motor. The main pickup for the raw water intake is via a through hull fitting which can be closed with a ball valve. On tracing its route to the raw water pump however, I note there is a second intake pipe coming through the transom, which joins the main pickup pipe in a “Y” section before the raw water pump. I understand from my research that raw water also enters through the intakes on the leg, passes through the transom and feeds to the raw water pump through this second intake pipe.
My boat is kept on a marina and I always close the main intake seacock when leaving the boat. I would like to be able to secure this second intake as well as I see this as a potential weakness.
I am interested to see whether anyone here has attempted to put a seacock or inline valve in place in the pickup line from the leg inside the engine bay, and in particular, how they did it.
Any advice appreciated.
I have a Seacore 350 MAG which is obviously FWC, with a heat exchanger sitting above the front of the motor. The main pickup for the raw water intake is via a through hull fitting which can be closed with a ball valve. On tracing its route to the raw water pump however, I note there is a second intake pipe coming through the transom, which joins the main pickup pipe in a “Y” section before the raw water pump. I understand from my research that raw water also enters through the intakes on the leg, passes through the transom and feeds to the raw water pump through this second intake pipe.
My boat is kept on a marina and I always close the main intake seacock when leaving the boat. I would like to be able to secure this second intake as well as I see this as a potential weakness.
I am interested to see whether anyone here has attempted to put a seacock or inline valve in place in the pickup line from the leg inside the engine bay, and in particular, how they did it.
Any advice appreciated.
wyrman
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I'm 5'11" and the mid cabin is too short for me. Two winters ago I extended it 5 1/2", and now its way better.
I also put a memory foam mattress on it.
I also put a memory foam mattress on it.
Rohan
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I extended my mid cabin a few years back and posted photos on a thread here
http://clubsearay.com/showthread.php/21425-sea-ray-260DA-2006-small-midcabin/page2
I still think I have the measurements from when I did this if anyone is interested. It added about 6 inches to the mid cabin - that's where I sleep and I'm 6'2".
wyrman
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I read your thread Rohan, that's where I got the idea. Thanks for posting it.
hm... ok searay wastes a lot of space out of the footprint on a 240 and a 260 . i very much like the look of a 2006 260 - in my opinion the best cockpit layout ever build and i,m a fan of searay- but i see the same downsides like in my 240 sundancer . much waste of space out of the footprint and from what i have read you have to be also a pro to keep her level on plane . no way i can give the wheel to my girlfriend at planing speeds or i myself am not fully concentrated and ready for immediate tab input while on plane .
from waterline to forward deck / windshield - does a 240 and 260 feature the same height / freeboard ? does anybody know ?
wyrman
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My wife has been taking the helm more and more the past couple of years and she's learning very well.
She even cruised from Victoria BC almost all the way to Anacortis last summer which was about an hour or so cruising around 32 mph.
She needs to know how to drive it in case something happens to me.
They're not that hard once you learn how to handle them.
Plus, the wasted space in the mid cabin is where ac would go if it had ac.
She even cruised from Victoria BC almost all the way to Anacortis last summer which was about an hour or so cruising around 32 mph.
She needs to know how to drive it in case something happens to me.
They're not that hard once you learn how to handle them.
Plus, the wasted space in the mid cabin is where ac would go if it had ac.
skibum
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I've had several of my past girlfriends learn to drive her like pros. The #1 thing to get them past is the that even when trimmed properly, a wave or a wake will make it lean one way or the other and that you just need to trust the boat and drive through it. Once they get that, teaching the rest is easy.
bbwhitejr
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I never had the first issue with the issues that a lot of others experienced. I had owned several bass boats with outboards. The key to running a bass boat is to get as much boat out of the water as possible and run it on the "pad." This is done by trimming the motor. When I went on the sea trial for my boat, the PO gave her full throttle and never trimmed at all. At about 30mph or so, the bow dug in and we all about left the boat. I realized exactly what had happened. Trimming the OD is the key to eliminating the unbalanced, leaning feeling that some experience. Give her 3/4 throttle and as she approaches 31-3300rpms, start bumping up on the trim. As you trim up, start pulling back on the throttle. My most efficient cruise speed was 27-28mph, 3800rpms at 12.8gph. I also turned the celery stick around to get a little more tuck. Maybe it made a minute amount of difference. I only ever used the trim tabs when I had 4 or more people in the boat.
Bennett
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new here. bought 2005 260 sundancer and have a few questions that could be answered. The previous owner didnt really take that good of care and anything that was needing corrected wasnt forwarded to me. i have the "water below steps" and know now that it is due to leaking from the freshwater tank located in the bow. My front bilge basically flooded with 20 gals of freshwater over a period of three days. i can not find a drawing that shows the routing of the pump suction to the tank or how to even get to the tank in the bow. i see the hose assembly running through the bulkhead on the port side but that is it. any help sure would be appreciated.
skibum
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Welcome, and congratulations on your 'new' boat. :thumbsup:
#1 - The fresh water tanks in our boats (mine is the same as yours) are not located in the bow. They are located in the port side of the bilge compartment. If they leak, they will leak into the rear bilge, and the water won't show up under the steps.
The most likely source of water in there (provided that no one used the shower and let the water drain into the drain in the head floor) are the port lights. Check to make sure that all 3 of the plastic "dogs" that you use to latch the windows closed are tight on all 4 port lights. There is a phillips head screw in that goes through each dog and into the window frame. Tighten all of these. If they still don't feel like they are putting sufficient pressure on the glass portion to hold it closed tightly against the outer seal after you tighten those screws, each dog has a smaller screw in the end that swings over the glass that you can adjust with a small flat blade screwdriver to get each one to apply more pressure on the glass. Make sure the screens have been removed. You can close the glass over the screen, but it will allow water to leak in.
If you use the air conditioner, the condensation also drains into the sump box under the stairs. If the sump box is gummed up with soap scum from the shower, or just gunk from water sitting in it, the float switch might get stuck which will allow the box to overflow. If the float is sticking, the sump box will also overflow when you take a shower.
If you fill the fresh water tank and the level drops with the water ending up under the stairs, then you most likely have a leaking water line that goes to either the galley sink, the head sink, or the head. Again, if the tank leaks, the water will end up in the bilge. The water lines to the 3 fixtures I mentioned run into the cabin, and if they leak you might see water under the stairs.
Go to the Sea Ray web site and select "Owner's Resources". You'll need to have your Hull ID number (HIN) handy. Fill in the form, and then it will let you download the owner's manual and parts manuals. The parts manual has lots of drawings showing you where things are located, including where the water lines run. It is very helpful to have while troubleshooting.
Good Luck!
#1 - The fresh water tanks in our boats (mine is the same as yours) are not located in the bow. They are located in the port side of the bilge compartment. If they leak, they will leak into the rear bilge, and the water won't show up under the steps.
The most likely source of water in there (provided that no one used the shower and let the water drain into the drain in the head floor) are the port lights. Check to make sure that all 3 of the plastic "dogs" that you use to latch the windows closed are tight on all 4 port lights. There is a phillips head screw in that goes through each dog and into the window frame. Tighten all of these. If they still don't feel like they are putting sufficient pressure on the glass portion to hold it closed tightly against the outer seal after you tighten those screws, each dog has a smaller screw in the end that swings over the glass that you can adjust with a small flat blade screwdriver to get each one to apply more pressure on the glass. Make sure the screens have been removed. You can close the glass over the screen, but it will allow water to leak in.
If you use the air conditioner, the condensation also drains into the sump box under the stairs. If the sump box is gummed up with soap scum from the shower, or just gunk from water sitting in it, the float switch might get stuck which will allow the box to overflow. If the float is sticking, the sump box will also overflow when you take a shower.
If you fill the fresh water tank and the level drops with the water ending up under the stairs, then you most likely have a leaking water line that goes to either the galley sink, the head sink, or the head. Again, if the tank leaks, the water will end up in the bilge. The water lines to the 3 fixtures I mentioned run into the cabin, and if they leak you might see water under the stairs.
Go to the Sea Ray web site and select "Owner's Resources". You'll need to have your Hull ID number (HIN) handy. Fill in the form, and then it will let you download the owner's manual and parts manuals. The parts manual has lots of drawings showing you where things are located, including where the water lines run. It is very helpful to have while troubleshooting.
Good Luck!
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Little Ducky
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http://www.searay.com/boat_graphics/electronic_brochure/Company1729/1C1_24_74DEIPR8TJ6.pdf
Take a look at the above. It looks like the tank is on the bilge area. So you might have some other pluming issues. Does the pump run like there's a leak when no one is using fresh water?
Edit: Skibum beat me to it.
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KevinC
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The bow storage is where the anchor rope and chain is stored behind the roller. Behind that area would be the v-berth (mirror on front wall) so I do not think there is room for a tank.
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canderton
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I've read a lot about how's to replace the tracks, I've even found the tracks at Teak Isle, but how in God's name do your remove the helm to get to the door to replace the upper/lower tracks. Steps/pictures greatly appreciated. Or anyone in the Tampa Bay area that does this kind of work.
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