Spent 4 hours showing the boat yesterday

Wow..I sold 2 boats privately and would never do it again..In my experiences a good broker is well worth the $$..if you can find a good one.
This guy is definately sounds like a "professional customer"..
Good luck with the sale.
 
mrsrobinson said:
I received an email from the prospective buyer last night:

"You guise it under the umbrella of "I'm just trying to educate you." (If you were going to educate me why didn't you say: "Hey guy I don't want to take all your money you are paying too much.") Imagine that... the "Seller" educating the "Buyer" about the faux pas he's about to make. Kinda comical.

Would you be willing to educate me on how much money you owe on the boat and exactly how much of a profit you are looking to make or would have made if this transaction would have gone through. Maybe if we started from there I could have easily said deal or no deal. I understand fully that when you sell something you want to make a profit. I have no problems with that.
Let me preface my next sentence to say that this is not directed at you I'm speaking in general. I do however have problems when a seller is out to make 10 times more than something is worth."

So, as all can see, I made the right decision on this one. And yes, I know this is a public forum and hopefully this gentlemen finds and reads this discussion. Maybe he will learn something from it too.


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Ok, I am the one who has admitted I lost a $1,000.00 deposit plus the coast of a haul out and a survey when looking to buy a boat, where I told the seller to kiss off, so do not ask me what I would tell this fool.

Hell I just bought a boat and I sure am not expecting to turn a profit if I sell it later :huh:
 
Four Suns said:
Let me guess... Symantec Web Security
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No, this is a corporate package of some sort. Maybe McAfee? I get the corporate logo though. I bet some 'warning mark' shows up in the IT guys office to keep a watch on my traffic.

Doug
 
The symantec product allows the IT guys to put up their own web site... Those categories are from that product though...

It took several cases of beer one friday afternoon to come up with those categories BTW.
 
Four Suns said:
The symantec product allows the IT guys to put up their own web site... Those categories are from that product though...

It took several cases of beer one friday afternoon to come up with those categories BTW.
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Dang - I hate you! (Not really, just kidding...). My military system just gives me a generic "Access Denied" type of screen with some long paragraph about - oh, whatever.
 
Pirate said:
Greg- this guy is still in your head. He worked you like a video game. You say YOU made the right decision? You haven't made any decisions at all. This guy has been in charge from the minute he walked on your boat. He is still working your emotions now. I don't care what kind of market is out there, you have to lead the sales process and you have to stand up for your bottom line.

Your prospect is an idiot, but you've let him waste your time and get you worked up for over a week now. For the love of God, would you please send this guy a copy of the soldboats.com print out along with a note that says your bottom line. If he is interested, send you a written contract along with a 10% deposit. If not, you need NO further communication. Take this guy's money or get rid of him.
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"please send this guy a copy of the soldboats.com print out along with a note that says your bottom line. "

Did that already yesterday.

Yeah, he is still in my head but not as a prospective buyer. I learned a lot from this experience and from the replies here, thanks.
 
mrsrobinson said:
I received an email from the prospective buyer last night:

"You guise it under the umbrella of "I'm just trying to educate you." (If you were going to educate me why didn't you say: "Hey guy I don't want to take all your money you are paying too much.") Imagine that... the "Seller" educating the "Buyer" about the faux pas he's about to make. Kinda comical.

Would you be willing to educate me on how much money you owe on the boat and exactly how much of a profit you are looking to make or would have made if this transaction would have gone through. Maybe if we started from there I could have easily said deal or no deal. I understand fully that when you sell something you want to make a profit. I have no problems with that.
Let me preface my next sentence to say that this is not directed at you I'm speaking in general. I do however have problems when a seller is out to make 10 times more than something is worth."

So, as all can see, I made the right decision on this one. And yes, I know this is a public forum and hopefully this gentlemen finds and reads this discussion. Maybe he will learn something from it too.



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You should be so glad this guy didnt buy your boat! I can see this transaction would have turned worse and worse, and he seems like the type of guy who would have called you for the next year after buying the boat:

" The battery died...didnt you know it was a weak battery?"
" I noticed a frayed wire today"
 
Very interesting reads and so common of the boat selling / listing process. Been there and done that many times and each time you learn something new and build upon it.

The best thing is what you have learned and will take with you and the fact that this one thread allowed you to almost equal the postings (number of) that Gary has :thumbsup:
 
My experience buying the boat was the opposite end was trouble.. The guy I was buying from was such a d-bag at times. Kept trying to tell me what a great deal I was getting and that he could easily sell it for $16k and that the book value was $14k. Then tried telling me the surveyor I paid told him (but wouldnt tell me the same...) that it was worth 18k.

Eventually I told myself Im showing up today with the check, we are going to the DMV, I am hooking it up and going home. If he couldnt handle that without prolonging it, I was going to walk away.
 
The first boat we sold was a 19' ski boat. It was 4 years old (in 1993). The night before driving across country to go overseas, we showed the boat. It was on the trailer, in a carport, clean, with all of the running lights on and interior lights on. It looked like a million bucks.

The next day, we delayed our departure and took the boat for a test ride in 20 knot+ winds. They agreed to $12,100. We wrote out a contract for payments (awaiting check from insurance for Hurricane Andrew - senior military officer - no worries). We went to Japan. I held the title. He used my registration. He paid me in full minus $100 due to finding some scrapes on the bottom that cost $100 to fix (trailer rash).

I held the title. The registration expired. He sent me a letter requesting the title. I held it. My wife sent him a letter saying I was deployed. I mailed him the title 3 months later. I was legal - he didn't complete the payment. Note to self - don't dick with a guy who is overseas over a hundred bucks when he holds the title.
 
Hampton said:
Profit? 10X? What the heck is this guy thinking? Did you buy that boat for 1/10th the price the week prior? Profit? Were you supposed to be making those payments on his behalf all of these years? He's just supposed to take over payments?

This guy has to be one of those with a mortgage that I'm preparing to cover for. That PISSES me off. I have a 4.375 fixed rate mortgage for 15 years. Now, I'm going to pay for the idiots who bought houses twice as big as mine, refinanced them to buy their kids Hummers (the cars), got caught up in a 3% loan which is now balooning to 12%, can't refi because the house isn't worth the loan amount.......... It PISSES me off!
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Gosh, that was well worth quoting. This is EXACTLY the type of guy Greg is dealing with. People who have no respect for how the world SHOULD work, and expect everyone to cover for their mistakes.

If -and you probably shouldn't- corrospond further, tell him that due to the market, you expect ZERO profit. Tell him that you paid $100K cash for the boat, and that should be the starting price. Oh wait. . you repowered, which is really a capital improvement, so you need to ask an additional $25K. And in all truth, while "fuel" and routine maintenance are fairly your responsibility, the sales tax you paid on the boat to start along with personal property taxes are not. So, the fair price of the boat is $145,000. To break even, with no profit.

Close with reminding him that you payment should either cash or certified funds. No personal checks. No promisary notes. No seller financing. No Harleys.
 
"No Harleys.":smt043

We have been having some discussions with a broker where Gary keeps his boat. We are leaning towards listing it with them. The main reason to do so is so that I can be that much closer to Gary ;-)
 
Lets have some real fun and invite this prospect to join csr afterall sounds like he will eventually be a searay owner. No?

Be careful Greg, this sounds like the making of a fatal attraction.
 
I am pretty confident our interactions are over...though I'll keep my eye out for unknown boiling pots of water on the stove.
 
Instead of him buying a 330 at 250 price, how's about we get him in a 250 at 330 price?
 
mrsrobinson said:
I am pretty confident our interactions are over...though I'll keep my eye out for unknown boiling pots of water on the stove.
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The first sign is pancakes sticking out the top of the pot.
 
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