58 Sedan Bridge Official Thread

Strypes said:
Bummer. The place that I use will do that, they even did the raised Boston Whaler logo on the bolsters when we had it done 2 seasons ago.
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The lady that did some repairs on my boats ran SR's upholstery shop in Merritt Island. She has her own business now and stays quite busy. I was going to replace the back on the rear bridge seat due to sun discoloration which has "Sea Ray" embordered on it. She said that she has the machines to do it but she can't as the design is trademarked.
 
Thanks, folks. I have a local canvas/upholstery guru... just thought easier solution might exist. Happens our back bolster -- with the Sea Ray logo -- is OK; it's just the seats that have gone south.

-Chris
 
INVERTER UPDATE

If it helps... I had the installation project manager onboard yesterday, and we're good to go with the plan:

- Repurpose the 24V bow thruster bank to also service an inverter
--- initial use will determine whether eventual capacity increase is necessary
--- 4x Odyssey ODS-AGM470FTT (nee PC1800-FT) 214-Ah AGMs may fit in the existing box
--- (428-Ah total; these are skinny but taller, and I haven't fully measured potential here)
--- 4x L16s (~300-Ah) will probably fit in the existing space, perhaps in a new (and taller) box

- Victron MultiPlus 24V/3000VA/70A/120V inverter/charger with auto transfer switch
--- replacing the original Charles 25A charger adjacent to the bow thruster bank

Victron Multi Control 200 and BMV-712 accessories will be mounted next to panel
--- forward facing, just above the aft end of the setee

- AC output will route from inverter to 120V outlet breakers on the panel
--- will service galley freezer and fridge, bridge fridge/icemaker, microwave, entertainment center

The plan does take advantage of locations for shorter DC wiring (wire size, voltage drop, etc. ) and fusing, and also happens to be about the shortest AC run possible from MultiPlus to panel and from MultipPlus to monitor/control accessories.

Mounting the inverter/charger in the engine room is a disadvantage. OTOH, it's replacing a charger already mounted in the engine room, as are our other two chargers... so it's accepted risk.

I did consider the Quattro that @ttmott suggested, but decided we didn't need (wouldn't benefit from) the additional capabilities.

My installers are local Victron dealers. As I understand it, they'll be getting on with it sometime over the next month or so while we're on the hard. I get to help, or at least watch, with no extra charge.

-Chris
 
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@ranger58sb I am also using my Bow Thruster batteries as inverter Batteries. Have you considered adding Victron Argo FET's to both engines so your inverter batteries are getting charged, not drained while underway? I had this done last month. (Assuming you are all 24V)
 
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ranger58sb said:
INVERTER UPDATE

If it helps... I had the installation project manager onboard yesterday, and we're good to go with the plan:

- Repurpose the 24V bow thruster bank to also service an inverter
--- initial use will determine whether eventual capacity increase is necessary
--- 4x Odyssey ODS-AGM470FTT (nee PC1800-FT) 214-Ah AGMs may fit in the existing box
--- (428-Ah total; these are skinny but taller, and I haven't fully measured potential here)
--- 4x L16s (~300-Ah) will probably fit in the existing space, perhaps in a new (and taller) box

- Victron MultiPlus 24V/3000VA/70A/120V inverter/charger with auto transfer switch
--- replacing the original Charles 25A charger adjacent to the bow thruster bank

Victron Multi Control 200 and BMV-712 accessories will be mounted next to panel
--- forward facing, just above the aft end of the setee

- AC output will route from inverter to 120V outlet breakers on the panel
--- will service galley freezer and fridge, bridge fridge/icemaker, microwave, entertainment center

The plan does take advantage of locations for shorter DC wiring (wire size, voltage drop, etc. ) and fusing, and also happens to be about the shortest AC run possible from MultiPlus to panel and from MultipPlus to monitor/control accessories.

Mounting the inverter/charger in the engine room is a disadvantage. OTOH, it's replacing a charger already mounted in the engine room, as are our other two chargers... so it's accepted risk.

I did consider the Quattro that @ttmott suggested, but decided we didn't need (wouldn't benefit from) the additional capabilities.

My installers are local Victron dealers. As I understand it, they'll be getting on with it sometime over the next month or so while we're on the hard. I get to help, or at least watch, with no extra charge.

-Chris
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Great plan. I have kicked this idea around for a couple of years with the other option to replace the Ref and Freezer with a 120/12v unit. Those are the two things I want to keep running most often while swimming/chilling without the generator running.
 
rlynch03 said:
Great plan. I have kicked this idea around for a couple of years with the other option to replace the Ref and Freezer with a 120/12v unit. Those are the two things I want to keep running most often while swimming/chilling without the generator running.
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It might be worth checking to see if by chance your existing units are dual voltage. I have two smaller refrigerators (in addition to the larger main unit) that were both dual voltage from the factory. One in the cockpit and one in the salon. Not sure why but both were exclusively wired to 120V by Sea Ray. I just had both mine rewired for dual voltages (1 on port & 1 on stbd batteries), which by switching off the new 120V circuit breaker, takes them off my inverter load.
 
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Brett H said:
@ranger58sb I am also using my Bow Thruster batteries as inverter Batteries. Have you considered adding Victron Isofet's to both engines so your inverter batteries are getting charged, not drained while underway? I had this done last month. (Assuming you are all 24V)
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Thanks, I'll check those. So far, I've put stuff like that into the "evaluate capacity later" category.

-Chris
 
Brett H said:
@ranger58sb I am also using my Bow Thruster batteries as inverter Batteries. Have you considered adding Victron Isofet's to both engines so your inverter batteries are getting charged, not drained while underway? I had this done last month. (Assuming you are all 24V)
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The Argofet multi bank isolators are a great idea. If you do a 3 bank Argofet for each alternator you get a great benefit that each alternator can charge any of the three battery banks or all three banks. Major benefit in redundancy and reliability. And, they are not that expensive.
 
ranger58sb said:
INVERTER UPDATE

If it helps... I had the installation project manager onboard yesterday, and we're good to go with the plan:

- Repurpose the 24V bow thruster bank to also service an inverter
--- initial use will determine whether eventual capacity increase is necessary
--- 4x Odyssey ODS-AGM470FTT (nee PC1800-FT) 214-Ah AGMs may fit in the existing box
--- (428-Ah total; these are skinny but taller, and I haven't fully measured potential here)
--- 4x L16s (~300-Ah) will probably fit in the existing space, perhaps in a new (and taller) box

- Victron MultiPlus 24V/3000VA/70A/120V inverter/charger with auto transfer switch
--- replacing the original Charles 25A charger adjacent to the bow thruster bank

Victron Multi Control 200 and BMV-712 accessories will be mounted next to panel
--- forward facing, just above the aft end of the setee

- AC output will route from inverter to 120V outlet breakers on the panel
--- will service galley freezer and fridge, bridge fridge/icemaker, microwave, entertainment center

The plan does take advantage of locations for shorter DC wiring (wire size, voltage drop, etc. ) and fusing, and also happens to be about the shortest AC run possible from MultiPlus to panel and from MultipPlus to monitor/control accessories.

Mounting the inverter/charger in the engine room is a disadvantage. OTOH, it's replacing a charger already mounted in the engine room, as are our other two chargers... so it's accepted risk.

I did consider the Quattro that @ttmott suggested, but decided we didn't need (wouldn't benefit from) the additional capabilities.

My installers are local Victron dealers. As I understand it, they'll be getting on with it sometime over the next month or so while we're on the hard. I get to help, or at least watch, with no extra charge.

-Chris
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Please get some pictures on how it all looks fit in. I looked at this briefly this fall and I was struggling to see how the inverter would fit. I didn't go very far though my allowed boat budget is just about committed with other projects this winter.
 
swaterhouse said:
Please get some pictures on how it all looks fit in. I looked at this briefly this fall and I was struggling to see how the inverter would fit. I didn't go very far though my allowed boat budget is just about committed with other projects this winter.
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Yep, will do. The short version is that the new Victron inverter/charger will fit where our original Charles thruster charger lives now... slightly above the thruster battery bank on the bulkhead just to port.

-Chris
 
carterchapman said:
Question for a 58 owner (or @ttmott) - what model KVH antenna is on our 2006 boats?

The good news is I’m in FL, the bad news is Reward is in TN so I can’t just look!
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If it’s original, it is the M5. My 2005 had the M5 and I don’t think they came out with the TV5 replacement until mid-2010’s. Check out the details in the current thread about KVH M3 for more details on Dish v. DirecTV
 
2006 Parts Manuals says DSS Trac Vision 4. KVH site doesn't currently list a TV4 (but I didn't check legacy stuff).

-Chris
 
TracVision 4 on mine.
My antenna is programmed to locate and lock on to the DTV satellites (DSS101 and DSS119); I have DTV. With a laptop I can program for other satellites (Dish for example) through the data interface cable. It can find and lock onto up to two satellites; see the below table for preprogrammed pairs. If you need the manual to do the re-programming I have it. The LNB's on the antenna are good for all US television; HD or SD. The LNB coax wiring runs directly to the DTV or Dish receiver; not through a separate KVH box.
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Robert Serviss said:
My rudder shafts are leaking at the packing nut. Has anyone changed out the packing while the boat was in the water. What width packing material should be used. Thanks
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Yeah, it’s not that big of a deal to do it in the water. You can back the nut off and you can barely even notice an increase in flow. At least it was that way for my current boat and my previous boat. I found a pick like the ones they use to pick nuts out of their shells works real well.
 
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