Ok - another burning question I have - Pump Out

This brings up another question: who has replaced waist hoses as a preventative measure or leak? Surveyor suggested I do so but the mechanical service I use is not to excited about it. He is replacing all fluids and filters next week and I asked that he look at belts and hoses (again) as well. (We have a 2005 DA.). No leaks or smells. religiously use No Flex digester. Thoughts?

I am getting ready to rehose the sanitary system. No smells and no leaks, I use the No-flex.
The boat has MPI black sanitary hose and the outside of the hose is starting to get cracks.
I bought a 50' roll of Trident 101, it was backordered and just showed up so the misery begins soon.
 
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I am getting ready to rehose the sanitary system. No smells and no leaks, I use the No-flex.
The boat has MPI black sanitary hose and the outside of the hose is starting to get cracks.
I bought a 50' roll of Trident 101, it was backordered and just showed up so the misery begins soon.
Why are you replacing it?
 
I am getting ready to rehose the sanitary system. No smells and no leaks, I use the No-flex.
The boat has MPI black sanitary hose and the outside of the hose is starting to get cracks.
I bought a 50' roll of Trident 101, it was backordered and just showed up so the misery begins soon.
Done ours 2 years ago and a big difference it was. No old boat smell at all now. Have a heat gun ready, You will need to warm it a bit to get it on fittings and make a bend. 85 feet of it in a 450, Clamps in places that are hard to find.
 
We do our own, Have my own hose fittings with good gaskets and it's no big deal. Over Half the cruiser people we know just pump out in the lake and it really pisses me off that they are that lazy and inconsiderate. I wish more enforcement was done to stop this. Most think because they put chemicals in the tank that that is treatment and it is legal to dump.
I think pumping out is best whenever we can vs an overboard discharge. Depending on what systems those folks on your lake have they may be legal though.

MARINE SANITATION DEVICES

(KRS 235:420)

Motorboats with marine toilets are not allowed on public waters unless the toilet is equipped with a Type I, II or III marine sanitation device (MSD.) Type I and II MSDs chemically treat sewage. Type III MSDs are holding tanks for raw sewage.

Raw sewage shall not be discharged in any public waters. Treated sewage may be discharged from a marine toilet into legal “discharge” waters. Those waters are Barkley and Kentucky lakes, Lake Cumberland and any of the major river systems. Type I and II MSDs must be sealed or locked while the vessel is on “no discharge” waters.
https://fw.ky.gov/FishBoatGuide/Pages/Boating.aspx
 
We have both self-service and full-service in Port Jefferson harbor on Long Island. All of Long Island Sound and any connecting waters is a No Discharge Zone.

The Town of Brookhaven provides operates free-of-charge pump out boat that roams Port Jeff and Mount Sinai harbors on weekends. They do everything; we tip the college-age operators $5. The pump out boat is usually VERY busy.

The town also provides self service locations: a pump out "barge" in Port Jeff and a dock-based station in Mount Sinai. The barge is horrible. Hard to dock at, nearly impossible to use with a manual pump and fittings that are basically useless. As the pump-out kid told me: if the barge actually worked I'd be out of a job.

The Mount Sinai dock based station is OK. It works, but you have to get the harbor tower to come down and turn on the system. It's fairly easy to use and straight forward, but getting it turned on is a pain.
 
I think pumping out is best whenever we can vs an overboard discharge. Depending on what systems those folks on your lake have they may be legal though.

MARINE SANITATION DEVICES

(KRS 235:420)

Motorboats with marine toilets are not allowed on public waters unless the toilet is equipped with a Type I, II or III marine sanitation device (MSD.) Type I and II MSDs chemically treat sewage. Type III MSDs are holding tanks for raw sewage.

Raw sewage shall not be discharged in any public waters. Treated sewage may be discharged from a marine toilet into legal “discharge” waters. Those waters are Barkley and Kentucky lakes, Lake Cumberland and any of the major river systems. Type I and II MSDs must be sealed or locked while the vessel is on “no discharge” waters.
https://fw.ky.gov/FishBoatGuide/Pages/Boating.aspx
They have holding tanks, Type III, Not legal to discharge. Adding No Flex or something else to a holding tank and saying that is treatment to discharge in wrong. A few big fines from the authority's will stop this.
 
Several free self service pumpouts to choose from around here. The local towns provide them.
Two of the three towns in the immediate area provide the service of free pump out boats too. One in a local town marina and the other in a popular anchorage.
No reason to illegally discharge in this area.
 
Can't OP just go offshore and pump into the ocean?

i pumped out inside the marina while another buddy took a swim between boats in the summerheat to cool down a bit .

he wondered a little how quick he went brown on holiday and proudly smiled at me .

i friendly smiled back ;-)
 
Most of the fuel docks in southern Lake Michigan do the pump out for you. The various marinas have different processes from full service where they do it every week if desired to you have to go to a pumpout when needed.

My flooded dock, we moved from, had full service every week which was great because my 270 had a 15 gallon tank. My current dock has pumpout hose connections at each slip and you do it yourself.

After years of evidence of nasty left on the gunwales, dirty boot prints on the boat, etc. I do not mind handling it myself. We have sufficient capacity now that we don't have to pumpout unless we are on a 2 week trip.

MM
 
We do our own, Have my own hose fittings with good gaskets and it's no big deal. Over Half the cruiser people we know just pump out in the lake and it really pisses me off that they are that lazy and inconsiderate. I wish more enforcement was done to stop this. Most think because they put chemicals in the tank that that is treatment and it is legal to dump.
They have holding tanks, Type III, Not legal to discharge. Adding No Flex or something else to a holding tank and saying that is treatment to discharge in wrong. A few big fines from the authority's will stop this.
If these were folks I considered friends I'd probably find some information for them to help them understand they are not legal. After that I'd turn them in.

I had a situation a few years ago with a sailboat several slips away. He was leaking diesel fuel into his bilge. He was at his boat virtually every evening after which diesel fuel would work it's way down the marina to my area. Once when it was quite windy the waves actually splashed diesel up onto my swim platform. You could smell it, see it, track it right to his boat whenever he was there. He denied, denied, denied it, it wasn't him he said.....I called the CG. The CG sent a special crew for such situations, they came from over 200mi away.

Luckily for the sailboater he hadn't pumped his bilge for a day, it was a bit stormy and diesel had been flushed away by the time the CG got there. You could still smell it faintly and I showed them the diesel residue on my boat and others. They looked around, took some samples, and talked to boat owners including the sailboater.

Lo and behold the sailboater quickly had a local shop make a new fuel tank and the problem was solved...he just needed a little motivation.;)
 
Do you mean to tell me there are actually pump out stations where there are people to help you?

This ol country boy ain't never seed one of them.
 
Do you mean to tell me there are actually pump out stations where there are people to help you?

This ol country boy ain't never seed one of them.

I guess we are spoiled on the northern rivers. This is our 7th season and i have never done a pump out. All of the fuel docks on the St. Croix river and upper Mississippi that we have been to have staffed pump outs. Our current marina does dockside pump outs for $350 for the entire year. We don't even go to the fuel dock anymore.
 

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