Brunswick selling off Sea Ray brand

I would not want one of the last three boats completed after the assembly line workers were told they were losing their jobs.
 
JimT said:
I would not want one of the last three boats completed after the assembly line workers were told they were losing their jobs.
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I was thinking the same. I'm sure as professionals they would try, but you would think the passion just wouldn't be the same.
 
AKBASSKING said:
Look at a 60' Hatteras.....
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Hatteras has always offered outstanding quality, but their 60 is a bit too much boat for us. Wish they still made a 53 or a 48. Unfortunately, they don’t make anything like that nowadays, probably for some of the same reasons SR is making this latest move.

We’re looking for something in the upper 40s to low 50s range, two full heads and at least two or maybe three staterooms, bridge, preferably with a hardtop over the bridge (tired of dealing with canvas), and hopefully shafts not pods. We weren’t really that hot on what SR was offering, although we were looking at the 460 Fly.

I’m terms of other brands, Riviera and Tiara seem like good quality but we haven’t seen any of their bridge boats that appeal to us, since my wife will not go for the convertible/sport fish/sedan bridge style. What do you guys think of Azimut? To my eye, some of them look like a sneaker (or an iron), but not all of them. I’m wondering about quality, compared to the other brands out there.
 
lawndoctor said:
What do you guys think of Azimut?
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No personal experience but someone locally has a pretty new Aziumut 50 and from what I hear it is an absolutely bear to work on. Systems have been tough to get to, special mechanics, etc. I've read similar stories across other forums as well but like anything, people don't generally get on the Internet to sing a products praises so those folks might be the minority.
 
BOB TYSON said:
Cant help but think yachts/boats are poised for a revolution in technology. Look at Home ownership. Look at the articles in the past couple of years regarding the move to renting rather owning by Boomers. Look at autos:ride hailing; electric vehicles. I believe there will always be a market for multi-million dollar yachts that are custom built-just like estate size homes but yachts in the middle market will either evaporate or technology will provide a way to build them at a vastly more affordable cost, including operational costs. Check out the rise in the "SUV's" of boats-the Center Console. People will always love the water but the Melenials are more about the "experience" rather than the Pride of Ownership, look at the rise of boat rental clubs. This Boomer laments many of the changes but change is inevitable.
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I'm curious if they're to the point where they are willing to 3D print or robotically spray up hulls.

I also wonder why there's not more diesel-electric propulsion. Lots of people seldom exceed hull speed or at least spend a lot of time near there where you could run off battery, cutting down on the number of engines from 3 (2 plus generator) to 2 asymmetrically sized generators, allowing a computer to determine how much electricity you need to generate for the desired propulsion speed/load/battery charge.

And where are the solar panels? I'm always amazed at the giant expanses of open hard top space that could be solar panels. A couple of kilowatts of free electricity that would cut generator run time seems to be just ignored. It must be a why-bother kind of thing because of the expectation of a couple of tons of AC cooling always on and don't forget keeping that Seakeeper spun up constantly.
 
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IMG_2961.JPGNot sure who built this big one, but when SR quit the large boat business, they still left buyers with options.
 
lawndoctor said:
Hatteras has always offered outstanding quality, but their 60 is a bit too much boat for us. Wish they still made a 53 or a 48. Unfortunately, they don’t make anything like that nowadays, probably for some of the same reasons SR is making this latest move.

We’re looking for something in the upper 40s to low 50s range, two full heads and at least two or maybe three staterooms, bridge, preferably with a hardtop over the bridge (tired of dealing with canvas), and hopefully shafts not pods. We weren’t really that hot on what SR was offering, although we were looking at the 460 Fly.

I’m terms of other brands, Riviera and Tiara seem like good quality but we haven’t seen any of their bridge boats that appeal to us, since my wife will not go for the convertible/sport fish/sedan bridge style. What do you guys think of Azimut? To my eye, some of them look like a sneaker (or an iron), but not all of them. I’m wondering about quality, compared to the other brands out there.
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Bayliner of Europe I hear stories all the time of people who bought them and took huge baths to get rid of them.
 
rnanaples said:
Bayliner of Europe I hear stories all the time of people who bought them and took huge baths to get rid of them.
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I’ve been hearing the same thing about Azimut. Our top contenders right now are Princess, Tiara, and Riviera, probably in that order. We really like the Princess F49 but it only comes with pods, which is a fatal flaw in our book.
 
Azimut is the "Bayliner of Europe"... that is a new one. Wonder what they say about Pershing.
 
lawndoctor said:
I’ve been hearing the same thing about Azimut. Our top contenders right now are Princess, Tiara, and Riviera, probably in that order. We really like the Princess F49 but it only comes with pods, which is a fatal flaw in our book.
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I would put Tiara in the top spot. They are extremely well built boats, although sadly lacking in style.
 
I just can't embrace Azimut. Actually do like the outward appearance. Do not like how the fly bridge and cockpit is laid out. Probably because we are NOT sun people, don't layout on the pads. Azimuts I have seen are very "sun pad" oriented.
 
Bridog said:
I would put Tiara in the top spot. They are extremely well built boats, although sadly lacking in style.
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Tiara is a quality boat. And they do have two good contenders for us, the F44 and F53. Tiara offers a choice of pods or shafts in both, and they actually have pretty nice lines.
 
Bridog said:
I would put Tiara in the top spot. They are extremely well built boats, although sadly lacking in style.
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What they lack in style they make up for in functionality. At least the ones I've seen are very solid boats that are sea worthy.
 
Have you guys seen the 53? I sincerely think that if the L Series looked that good, there would still be an L Series. (Or at least, it would’ve lasted longer)
 
lawndoctor said:
Tiara is a quality boat. And they do have two good contenders for us, the F44 and F53. Tiara offers a choice of pods or shafts in both, and they actually have pretty nice lines.
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I like the lines of the F53, Tiara is most definitely on our list as is all the others you mentioned.

Are you also considering Maritimo?
 
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